{"id":1427,"date":"2013-11-16T05:33:10","date_gmt":"2013-11-16T05:33:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/huffsantacruz.org\/wordpress\/?p=1427"},"modified":"2013-11-25T06:55:16","modified_gmt":"2013-11-25T06:55:16","slug":"questions-for-a-councilmember","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/huffsantacruz.org\/wordpress\/questions-for-a-councilmember\/","title":{"rendered":"Questions for a Councilmember"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Micah (Posner):\u00a0\u00a0 Following up on the HUFF meeting of several weeks ago, I&#8217;ll attempt to briefly summarize what I&#8217;m now seeking&#8211;either clarification or action&#8211;from you on the issues raised there and earlier.\u00a0 Please do it briefly and in writing.\u00a0 If you feel unable to do so because of &#8220;tactical&#8221; or other concerns, please contact me by phone.\u00a0 I also include some of the prior e-mail for reference.\u00a0 Again, short answers are fine.\u00a0 And I&#8217;d be happy to meet with you if you need clarification or elaboration.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">1.\u00a0 Forward to Vogel a request for an update on Vasquez&#8217;s sidewalk smash of Richard Hardy (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.santacruz.com\/news\/2013\/04\/30\/police_video_goes_viral\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.santacruz.com\/<wbr>news\/2013\/04\/30\/police_video_<wbr>goes_viral<\/wbr><\/wbr><\/a>with the video itself referenced in the comments that follow).\u00a0 If you&#8217;ve done this, when did you do it?\u00a0 If you won&#8217;t do it, why not?2.\u00a0\u00a0 As I understand it, at the HUFF meeting 3 weeks ago, you committed yourself to making sure that any member of the public got 2 minutes to speak on each individual Consent Agenda item&#8211;whether by pulling it yourself or some other means.\u00a0 Am I correct here?\u00a0 Our previous dialogue:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is it still your position that 2 minutes is adequate public comment time for 6-30 items on the Consent Agenda that are supposed to receive a Public Hearing at the request of the public or city council?\u00a0 <strong>Your response:\u00a0 I think that the public should be able to speak ONCE for two minutes on each consent item that they are concerned with. I believe that this is how Mayor Bryant has been holding the meeting.<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 BUT THAT IS NOT THE POSITION OF THE MAYOR OR YOU AT THE LAST FEW COUNCIL MEETINGS.\u00a0 RATHER YOU CAN TALK FOR TWO MINUTES ON A TOTAL OF <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">ALL<\/span> THE ITEMS AS A GROUP NOT ON EACH ONE.\u00a0 AND YOU MUST COMBINE THAT WITH YOUR EXPLANATION OF WHY YOU WANT ANY OF THESE ITEMS PULLED\u00a0 <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">AND<\/span> YOU MUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO SAY ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE ON THE ITEM THAT ACTUALLY DOES GET PULLED OR YOU WON&#8217;T BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING&#8211;AS GUARANTEED BY THE BROWN ACT.\u00a0\u00a0 ARE YOU CLEAR ON THIS? Do you still support Bryant&#8217;s position claiming that you will still not be able to speak on any particular item even if you&#8217;ve successfully coaxed a council member to remove it from the agenda because you&#8217;ll then &#8220;have had your comment time?&#8221;\u00a0 What if you want to speak on several Consent agenda items?\u00a0 Then the time you&#8217;ve spent &#8220;persuading&#8221; a Council member to &#8220;allow&#8221; a Public Hearing on one item will leave little time to address any other item essentially violating the spirit if not the letter of the Open Meetings (Brown) Act?\u00a0 I THINK YOU&#8217;VE AGREED THAT 2 MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH TO SPEAK ON 15 ITEMS (OR EVEN A SUBSET OF THEM).\u00a0 WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO TO BACK UP THIS UNDERSTANDING?<\/p>\n<p>3.\u00a0\u00a0 Have you followed up on your commitment to attend an ACLU meeting and\/or letter them specifically urging them to publicly oppose the cutbacks on space for street performers, vendors, and artists recently passed by City Council over your and Lane&#8217;s objections?\u00a0 Will you be doing so?\u00a0 (It&#8217;s actually probably equally if not more important to request a statement supporting homeless survival rights and opposing police sweeps when there is no alternate shelter being offered&#8211;are you willing to do this?).\u00a0 My previous comment is still apt:\u00a0<span><strong> If you are really interested in putting some energy into public education here, I believe it would ultimately encourage allies and challenge the level of hatred (and merchant discrimination) against homeless people. \u00a0 I&#8217;d suggest public statements as well as public appearances at the ACLU Board and other organizations, seeking to enlist their aid and buck up their spaghetti\u00a0 spines.\u00a0\u00a0 Useless as these groups have generally been locally, they seem like political animals who perk up at the appearance of a public official.\u00a0 It also might make up in some degree (in their eyes) for your sell-out on the Cowell Beach issue\u00a0 (I believe the harsh term is accurate).<\/strong><\/span>\u00a0 <strong>Your response: That&#8217;s a great idea but is a better role for activists then elected. That&#8217;s partly what I learned by encouraging the ACLU prior to the Council Meeting.\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 TO REPEAT&#8211;THE CLOWNS AT THE ACLU BOARD, SCCCPL, NAACP, DON&#8217;T RESPOND TO ACTIVISTS.\u00a0 BUT POLITICAL CLIMBERS AND POWER-WORSHIPERS THAT THEY ARE, THEY DO RESPOND TO VISITS FROM POLITICIANS. YOUR PROPOSAL TO SEND THE SIDEWALK-SHRINKAGE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO THE ARTS COMMISSION IS A NICE TACTIC; USE IT IF YOU NEED TO REASSURE YOURSELF YOU CAN RAISE THE ISSUE PERSONALLY AND PUBLICLY WITH THE ACLU &amp; OTHER GROUPS, BUT GO IN PERSON OR SEND WRITTEN LETTERS.<\/p>\n<p>4.\u00a0\u00a0 I appreciate the additional info about the segregated costly Levee portapotty (i.e. potential plumbing).\u00a0 I&#8217;d still like some insight into who is pushing this in the staff rather than the much more reasonable and dignified alternatie of keeping open the San Lorenzo Park bathroom, say?\u00a0 Hence my request about who you talked to, when, their responses, any written communications, etc.\u00a0 Hence my inquiry to you in late October:\u00a0 &#8220;THE STAFF&#8221; IS NOT A HELPFUL REPLY.\u00a0 ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE QUESTION HERE.\u00a0 WHY WAS THE OBVIOUS KEEPING BATHROOMS THAT ALREADY EXIST OPEN AT NIGHT REJECTED?\u00a0 WAS IT EVEN CONSIDERED?\u00a0 I REPEAT THE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU HAVEN&#8217;T ANSWERED IT.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">5.\u00a0\u00a0 What&#8217;s the follow-up on your request to Barisone re:\u00a0 Sparks v. White?\u00a0 Specifically&#8211;has Barisone responded&#8211;in writing?\u00a0 If not, please renew the request&#8211;it&#8217;s likely to be helpful in court and in dealing with cops on the street. \u00a0 It is my feeling that his vindictive response to finding street art and culture constitutionally protected from the &#8220;no price tags&#8221; nonsense being pushed by the police were these bogus time-place-manner restrictions that essentially constrict-to-death street performing, vending, art, and tabling downtown.\u00a0 Do you have any indication around this either way?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You replied:\u00a0 I will follow up, however, the issue doesn&#8217;t seem very timely to me.<\/strong><br \/>\nFOR ANY ARTIST TRYING TO DISPLAY HIS WORK IN A 3 1\/2&#8242; x 3 1\/2&#8242; SPACE IT&#8217;S OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT.\u00a0 THEY CAN PRESENT THAT OPINION IN COURT WHEN THEY&#8217;RE HARASSED.\u00a0\u00a0 When did you follow-up on the Barisone request?6.\u00a0\u00a0 You may ignore the internal conservative pressures\u00a0 that\u00a0 shut down the 5 Krohn Krappers a decade ago, but I suspect we&#8217;ll hear the same crap soon about your costly portapotty &#8220;solution&#8221;.\u00a0\u00a0 Or we&#8217;ll find the same two-tier &#8220;homeless get surveilled; middle-class people get privacy&#8221; that is now the case in the Locust St. Parking Structure.\u00a0\u00a0 I suggest you head this off by getting the real records of real police concerns. \u00a0 Otherwise you may find yourself swept up in a Council response to mob myths fearprompted by TBSC et. al.\u00a0\u00a0 This is a repeated request.\u00a0\u00a0 Please review\u00a0 the requests in bold below and forward those questions to staff.\u00a0 They are currently claiming to &#8220;have no records&#8221;.\u00a0 Which frankly strikes me as steaming horseshit without benefit of portapotty.<strong><br \/>\nYou replied:\u00a0 I don&#8217;t see what happened in the past is relevant. We will soon open the bathroom and I will be very careful about reported &#8220;problems&#8221;. \u00a0With regard to privacy issue, these didn&#8217;t seem very important to the homeless at a well attended HUFF meeting several months ago.<\/strong> \u00a0 HOW WILL YOUR &#8220;CARE&#8221; WITH PROBLEMS MANIFEST ITSELF? \u00a0\u00a0 IF THE PORTAPOTTIES WERE CLOSED IN THE PAST BY AESTHETIC PRIMADONNAS LIKE MATHEWS &amp; ROBINSON OR THEIR STAFF ALLIES, THEN IT&#8217;S LIKELY TO HAPPEN AGAIN.\u00a0 ALL THIS IS USUALLY DONE WITHOUT POLICE STATS (AS THE ORDINANCES WERE PASSED&#8211;NOR DID YOU OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER DEMAND THEM).\u00a0 IT&#8217;S NOT A &#8220;BATHROOM&#8221;, BUT A PORTAPOTTY, BY THE WAY, SO LET&#8217;S NOT TRY TO SELL SHIT BY ANOTHER LABEL.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">7.\u00a0 Dan Madison reports being banned from Verve for backpacks\/homeless appearance.\u00a0 Similar stories are coming out of New Leaf and Lulu Carpenter&#8217;s as well as the\u00a0 Coffee Roasting Company.\u00a0 What&#8217;s the result of your inquiry to the Roasting Company?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You replied:\u00a0 I&#8217;m having a hard time getting ahold of the owner of the Roasting Company. It changed hands several years ago from a well known local to some guy in Watsonville and the staff gave me a bum phone number for him. Could a HUFFster work on finding the contact info for the owner? If not, I will keep it on my long to do list.\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 A LETTER TO THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE ASKING THEM TO CLARIFY THEY DON&#8217;T SUPPORT POLICIES THAT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE HOMELESS.\u00a0 Yes?8. The request you ignored seeking specific written response from P &amp; R and the SCPD regarding the requirements, advance notice time, specific limits, costs, &amp; appeal processes regarding Special Permits and Amplified Sound permits.\u00a0 <strong>You responded:\u00a0 I&#8217;ll work on this. <\/strong>\u00a0 I did\u00a0 the work and the &#8220;info&#8221; such as it is, is at\u00a0 <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.indybay.org\/newsitems\/2013\/11\/09\/18746169.php?show_comments=1#18746356\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.indybay.org\/<wbr>newsitems\/2013\/11\/09\/18746169.<wbr>php?show_comments=1#18746356<\/wbr><\/wbr><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0<wbr>\u00a0 <\/wbr><\/strong>PLEASE KEEP A RECORD OF REQUESTS TO STAFF, TO WHOM THEY WERE SENT, WHEN, AND THE REPLIES RECEIVED&#8211;SINCE STAFF ARE THE REAL RULERS OF THE CITY UNDER KING BERNAL.\u00a0 WE WILL AT LEAST THEN HAVE A PAPER RECORD OF WHAT&#8217;S (NOT) HAPPENING. I REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAVE AN INTERN THROUGH WHICH MANY OF THESE ACTIONS CAN BE FUNNELED.<\/p>\n<p>9. What is the status of the police-napped bikes?\u00a0 Are they still being held hostage by city staff and the SCPD (with the help of the Bike Dojo)?\u00a0 I don&#8217;t want to hear you&#8217;re &#8220;working on it&#8221;, please. \u00a0 We&#8217;ve heard that for a year and a half now. \u00a0 Please specify recent meetings, timetables, claims, and responsible parties.\u00a0\u00a0 <strong>You replied: I&#8217;m looking into this.\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 AGAIN&#8230;MEANING WHAT?\u00a0 SPECIFICALLY?\u00a0 PLEASE SEND ME A SUMMARY OF THE NUMBER OF TIMES YOU&#8217;VE MET WITH THE BIKENAPPERS AND THEIR STAFF PALS, WHEN THESE MEETINGS HAPPENED, WHAT PROMISES WERE MADE, AND WHETHER THE PROMISES WERE FULFILLED. REMEMBER&#8211;YOU&#8217;RE THERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, NOT TO GREASE THE SOFT PARTS OF THE STAFF.\u00a0\u00a0 POOR PEOPLE ARE GOING WITHOUT BIKES BECAUSE OF YOUR &#8220;CONCERN&#8221; FOR STAFF SENSIBILITIES.\u00a0 STAFF STONEWALLING ON THIS BIKE BULLSHIT\u00a0 WE&#8217;VE PUT UP WITH FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS NOW. \u00a0 LET US KNOW THE DATE SENT AND THE PERSON TO WHOM THE MEMO WAS SENT.\u00a0 PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF ALL COMMUNICATIONS TO AND FROM STAFF ON THIS ISSUE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>10.\u00a0 You might want to consider that your complaissance with staff (the constant strokings you do as they mendaciously remove everyone&#8217;s rights using the phony Public Safety mythology are embarrassing and repugnant).\u00a0 I refer to the earlier issues the Parks and Recreation blank check 24-hour stay-away-or-face-a-year-in-<wbr>jail ordinance, the median law, Cowell&#8217;s Beach closure, the bucks-for-baloney &#8220;Security&#8221; gate out at the H(LO)SC<strong>.\u00a0 You replied:\u00a0\u00a0 I consider it all the time.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong> AND YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR ACTUALLY RAISING THE ISSUE SHARPLY FOR THE FIRST TIME&#8211;IN THE CONTEXT OF THE LATEST SCAVENGING &#8220;INVESTIGATION&#8221; SCAM AT LAST COUNCIL MEETING.\u00a0 EVERY TIME YOU CHALLENGE THIS MYTHOLOGY WITH A REQUEST\/DEMAND FOR STATS, THE MORE SHAKY THEIR HOUSE OF CARDS BECOMES.\u00a0 SEE ITEM xxX BELOW.<br \/>\n<\/wbr><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>11.\u00a0 I have no written response from you on CruzioWorks discrimination against Dan Madison and his son Gryphon, which I requested you seek info from.\u00a0 Didn&#8217;t you agree to look into that&#8211;as a private party if not as a Council person?\u00a0 What have you learned?<strong>\u00a0 You replied: I&#8217;m not at all convinced that Cruzio was discriminating against the Madisons based on their housing status and don&#8217;t intend to get involved.\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 YOU BASE THIS ON WHAT?\u00a0 YESTERDAY AT CAFE BRASIL I SPOKE WITH A CRUZIO CLIENT WHO WORKED NEXT TO MADISON FOR SEVERAL HOURS AFTER HE&#8217;D PAID HIS $300; THIS GUY WAS BAFFLED WHEN THE MANAGEMENT CAME IN AND BOOTED MADISON OUT WITHOUT EXPLANATION.\u00a0 WHAT HAS LED YOU TO ABANDON THIS ISSUE?<\/div>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">12.\u00a0 Any sign of restored Needle Exchange in the City?\u00a0 Please forward me a map of where Sharps Containers are available.<strong>\u00a0 You replied:\u00a0 Staff is working on a Sharps Container in the new bathroom. This is a good effort as it gets them in the business of figuring out how to do Sharps Containers and could be used for other locations. With regard to Needle Exchange, the Council here&#8217;s a lot more about getting rid of needle exchange at Emeline rather than the converse<\/strong>.\u00a0\u00a0 I REPEAT PLEASE FORWARD ME A MAP OF WHERE SHAPRS CONTAINERS HAVE BEEN PLACED OR DETERMINE THAT THEY DON&#8217;T EXIST.12.\u00a0 When will you appoint a real activist (or anybody, for that matter)\u00a0 to\u00a0 the Measure K Commission?\u00a0 Craig Canada might still be interested if you approach him.\u00a0 The Commission is a joke, but having a strong voice there would still be helpful in exposing the rising marijuana bust rate here (and the freeze and cutback in dispensaries within the city).\u00a0 What really needs doing, of course, is public statements regarding legalization and medicalization&#8211;something to talk back to the poisonous nonsense being spread by Comstock and Robinson and their TBSC friends.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/div>\n<p><strong>You replied: I appreciate your suggestion. I think I did reach out to Craig at some point and he wasn&#8217;t interested. Feel free to refer him to me. It&#8217;s hard for me to recommend this position to someone given that the Commission is a joke. I don&#8217;t like to waste people&#8217;s time.<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 GIVEN THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FARCE IS CONSIDERING ELIMINATING MEASURE K, LIMITING OR SHUTTING DOWN HEAD SHOPS, AND USING THE DRUG WAR AS PROTECTIVE COVER ON THEIR WAR ON THE HOMELESS, I THINK HAVING A STRONG VOICE THERE&#8211;EVEN ONE THAT CAN&#8217;T WIN VOTES IS IMPORTANT.\u00a0\u00a0 I&#8217;LL PASS THIS ON TO CRAIG.\u00a0 DO I UNDERSTAND YOU&#8217;LL AGREE TO APPOINT AN ADVOCATE, IF ONE COMES FORWARD (I CAN&#8217;T VOUCH FOR CRAIG).<\/p>\n<p>Sorry for the backlog, but these issues don&#8217;t go away.\u00a0\u00a0 Though the tone and extent of these questions may put you off, please try to respond however briefly.\u00a0 That is your job.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks again for getting back to the basics by attacking the Public Safety mythology as far as you did.\u00a0 You need to talk to Vogel and get his specifics&#8211;since it&#8217;s my understanding from a conversation this summer that there has been no increase in crime subtantially in Santa Cruz in the last 20 years&#8211;all the comparisons with other cities of its same size aside.\u00a0 Not that Vogel is the most disinterested source, of course.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:32:44 -0700<br \/>\nFrom: <a href=\"mailto:micahposner@cruzio.com\" target=\"_blank\">micahposner@cruzio.com<\/a><br \/>\nTo: <a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a><br \/>\nSubject: Re: Reiterating some requests and questions<\/p>\n<div>Dear Robert,Sorry to miss the HUFF meeting.<\/p>\n<p>With regard to the shitter questions. I don&#8217;t find them pertinent\/ am not interested in them. I was directed by HUFF (a couple months ago) to get a 24 hour bathroom, &#8220;any bathroom&#8221;. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m trying to do. The one we are going to open is not the most efficient or obvious or &#8220;best&#8221; use of funds. It&#8217;s the easiest one for me to get. Welcome to government.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll forward your question to Barisone.<\/p>\n<p>I would be very happy to talk to the owner of the Cofee Company about backpacks. Then I&#8217;ll get back to you.<\/p>\n<p>Micah<\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">Micah:Thanks for the heads-up on the latest attack on street vendors.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Please quickly request an opinion from Barisone&#8211;who continues to stonewall me&#8211;on the City of Sparks v. White decision&#8217;s applicability here (i.e. the constitutionality of banning street artists from showing price tags for their artwork).\u00a0<\/strong> I&#8217;d have thought you&#8217;d have done that back in February actually,\u00a0 or several weeks ago.<\/p>\n<p>On the shitter front, regarding item #9 <strong>is it correct to assume that the former public bathroom in the Locust Street garage\u00a0 is now gone?\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 I believe I&#8217;ve also pointed out to you both the wasteful and discriminatory aspect of spending $15,000 to set up what is essentially a segregated portapotty on the leevee instead of <strong>using that money to open the San Lorenzo Park and\/or Soquel\/Front bathrooms all night.\u00a0 Your response?\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Also what&#8217;s the status of the most-expensive-portapotty ever?\u00a0 <strong>How does its cost compare with the cost of the 5 portapotties set up in 1999 under the Krohn Krapper Kommission?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I have not been able to secure police data\u00a0 in spite of a Public Records Act request regarding the removal of those portapotties in terms of<strong> actual crime or vandalism then.\u00a0 Please seek this directly from the SCPD or via the City Manager.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You should also be advised that certain cafes are now banning people from bringing their backpacks in the store (the Coffee Roasting Company for one)&#8211;which means, unless an individual wants to risk losing her or his stuff by setting it outside (and being ticketed too boot for &#8220;abandoned property&#8221;), they can&#8217;t access that public service.\u00a0\u00a0 <strong>Are you willing to publicly step up to mediate problems so that cafes have another alternative to expressing their bigotry than banning homeless-looking people with backpacks (or without&#8211;Brent Adams noted a family of three turned away earlier this week from the same Coffee Roasting Company).<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Subject: Re: City of Sparks v. White and letter to City Attorney<br \/>\nFrom: <a href=\"mailto:micahposner@cruzio.com\" target=\"_blank\">micahposner@cruzio.com<\/a><br \/>\nDate: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 22:07:26 -0700<br \/>\nTo: <a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n<div>Dear Robert,<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I hope you are aware of further efforts by 3 councilmembers to reduce selling art. It is on Tuesday&#8217;s agenda.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>MicahSent from my iPad<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Robert Norse &lt;<a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a>&gt; wrote:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">John:\u00a0 While I appreciate this fairly boilerplate answer, I do know that in the interests of both fairness and saving the City money, you have clarified the status of certain practices and rights in Santa Cruz in the past.\u00a0 Robin told me that he conferred with you several years ago after the City of Sparks decision came out, and got your agreement to encourage the SCPD to lay off (to put it gently).\u00a0\u00a0 Was I misinformed?<br \/>\nAre you saying that you&#8217;ll answer a question for a Council member but not a member of the public about this issue?<br \/>\nHopefully not.<br \/>\nSince police are still variously misinforming artists on Pacific Avenue that they can&#8217;t display prices on their artwork (when they&#8217;re not harassing them for other things), I&#8217;d again encourage you to simply do what you did before when approached by an artist trying to stop this practice, which unnecessarily lays the city open to litigation.<br \/>\nIt is my understanding that the decision is still valid law (one of the attorneys involved actually practices in this area), so please, step out from behind the template and be direct here.<br \/>\nI am also requesting Chief Vogel and the Council contact you for your &#8220;advice&#8221; here, so I&#8217;m not ignoring your suggestion either.Thanks,<\/p>\n<p>Robert<\/p>\n<div>\n<hr \/>\n<p>From: <a href=\"mailto:JBarisone@abc-law.com\" target=\"_blank\">JBarisone@abc-law.com<\/a><br \/>\nTo: <a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a><br \/>\nDate: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:43:58 -0800<br \/>\nSubject: RE: City of Sparks v. White and letter to City Attorney<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Robert, I passed your concern along to the Police Department and if it has questions I will do the necessary research and answer them for the department. As you are aware I work for the City Council and the various City departments. I don\u2019t take instructions from, perform work for, or provide opinions to members of the public; nor do I publicly divulge my advice and communications to my clients unless the clients make such\u00a0 a request. I would suggest that in the future, if you have a complaint or concern concerning a City employee or practice, you contact the responsible City department head. If that department head seeks my advice in connection with your issue, I will be happy to assist him or her. Thanks, JGB<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><strong>From:<\/strong> Robert Norse [<a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a>]<br \/>\n<strong>Sent:<\/strong> Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:19 AM<br \/>\n<strong>To:<\/strong> John Barisone<br \/>\n<strong>Cc:<\/strong> Robin the rightsfinder; Ricardo Lopez; Brent Adams; Tom Noddy; Becky Johnson<br \/>\n<strong>Subject:<\/strong> RE: City of Sparks v. White and letter to City Attorney<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div>John:\u00a0 On 2-7, as you probably remember, I sent you an inquiry regarding City of Sparks v. White.\u00a0 On 2-13, you advised me you hadn&#8217;t got to it yet.It&#8217;s now a week later and street performers will be attending the HUFF meeting today at the Sub Rosa.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to be able to advise them if they are acting legally, based on your understanding of the law and the police enforcement policy.<\/p>\n<p>If I don&#8217;t hear from you in the next few hours, perhaps later today you can let me know&#8211;and I can them contact the performers by e-mail.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks,<\/p>\n<p>Robert<br \/>\n(423-4833)<\/p>\n<div>\n<table border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\">&#8212; On <strong>Thu, 2\/7\/13, Robert Norse <em>&lt;<a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a>&gt;<\/em><\/strong> wrote:<br \/>\nFrom: Robert Norse &lt;<a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a>&gt;<br \/>\nSubject: City of Sparks v. White<br \/>\nTo: &#8220;John Barisone&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:jbarisone@abc-law.com\" target=\"_blank\">jbarisone@abc-law.com<\/a>&gt;<br \/>\nCc: &#8220;Robin the rightsfinder&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:circulation999now@yahoo.com\" target=\"_blank\">circulation999now@yahoo.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Jonathan (!) Gettleman&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:jonathangettleman@yahoo.com\" target=\"_blank\">jonathangettleman@yahoo.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;David Beauvais&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:davebeau@pacbell.net\" target=\"_blank\">davebeau@pacbell.net<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;<a href=\"mailto:lioness@got.net\" target=\"_blank\">lioness@got.net<\/a>&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:lioness@got.net\" target=\"_blank\">lioness@got.net<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Ed Frey&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:edwinfrey@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">edwinfrey@hotmail.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;J.M. Brown&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:jammbrow@gmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">jammbrow@gmail.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Alexis of Pier 5&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:alexis@pier5law.com\" target=\"_blank\">alexis@pier5law.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Ricardo Lopez&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:riclopez35@yahoo.com\" target=\"_blank\">riclopez35@yahoo.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Joe the strummer&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:talljar@gmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">talljar@gmail.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Tom Noddy&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:tnoddy@aol.com\" target=\"_blank\">tnoddy@aol.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Brent Adams&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:compassionman@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">compassionman@hotmail.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Coral (!!!) Brune&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:coralbrune@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">coralbrune@hotmail.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;Free&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:overthrowproperty@yahoo.com\" target=\"_blank\">overthrowproperty@yahoo.com<\/a>&gt;, &#8220;John Malkin&#8221; &lt;<a href=\"mailto:jsmalkin@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">jsmalkin@hotmail.com<\/a>&gt;<br \/>\nDate: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 11:05 AM<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>John:<\/p>\n<p>You may remember Robin coming in to secure an agreement from you that he could resume displaying his artwork on the sidewalk without a permit and without harassment from the SCPD even though he attached price tags.\u00a0 This was several years ago in response to the City of Sparks v. White (<a href=\"http:\/\/seattletrademarklawyer.com\/storage\/White%20v.%20City%20of%20Sparks%20-%209th%20Cir.%20Opinion.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/<wbr>seattletrademarklawyer.com\/<wbr>storage\/White%20v.%20City%<wbr>20of%20Sparks%20-%209th%20Cir.<wbr>%20Opinion.pdf<\/wbr><\/wbr><\/wbr><\/wbr><\/a>) decision.\u00a0 He told me that you and he made such an agreement.<\/p>\n<p>Several artists have told me that &#8220;Hosts&#8221; and SCPD officers have been telling them they&#8217;ll be cited if they do what you apparently oked for Robin.\u00a0 I know Robin also requested an explicit change in the law and to my knowledge and his you never recommended or created it.<\/p>\n<p>I want to know if you&#8217;ve change your position here and now regard art work as not First Amendment-protected (as far as explicit pricing goes).\u00a0 What is the current policy and direction to the SCPD?<\/p>\n<p>This clarification is particularly important because some police officers are not merely banning explicit pricing, but also claiming that showing artwork without a business license is &#8220;panhandling&#8221; even if it&#8217;s done for donation in accord with the explicit exemption of MC 9.10.010(a)\u00a0 which states &#8220;A person is not soliciting for purposes of this chapter when he or she passively displays a sign or places a collection container on the sidewalk pursuant to which he or she receives monetary offerings in appreciation for his or her original artwork or for entertainment or a street performance he or she provides.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Please let me know what the status of the <em>White<\/em> decision is regarding city policy as well as assurance that MC 9.10.010(a) is still active law.<\/p>\n<p>Hope you are well.<\/p>\n<p>Robert<br \/>\n<a href=\"tel:%28831-423-4833\" target=\"_blank\">(831-423-4833<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>From: <a href=\"mailto:rnorse3@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">rnorse3@hotmail.com<\/a><br \/>\nTo: <a href=\"mailto:mposner@cityofsantacruz.com\" target=\"_blank\">mposner@cityofsantacruz.com<\/a><br \/>\nCC: <a href=\"mailto:micahposner@cruzio.com\" target=\"_blank\">micahposner@cruzio.com<\/a>; <a href=\"mailto:seandeluge@gmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">seandeluge@gmail.com<\/a>; <a href=\"mailto:becky_johnson222@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">becky_johnson222@hotmail.com<\/a>; <a href=\"mailto:lemasterhearth@hotmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">lemasterhearth@hotmail.com<\/a>; <a href=\"mailto:spleich@gmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">spleich@gmail.com<\/a>; <a href=\"mailto:jeanpiraino@gmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">jeanpiraino@gmail.com<\/a>; <a href=\"mailto:deetler@gmail.com\" target=\"_blank\">deetler@gmail.com<\/a>; <a href=\"mailto:sschnaar@riseup.net\" target=\"_blank\">sschnaar@riseup.net<\/a><br \/>\nSubject: Questions<br \/>\nDate: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:53:15 -0700<\/p>\n<p>Micah:<\/p>\n<p>Included for diversion:\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfgate.com\/bayarea\/article\/Disguises-for-portable-toilets-with-something-to-4780198.php\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.sfgate.com\/bayarea\/<wbr>article\/Disguises-for-<wbr>portable-toilets-with-<wbr>something-to-4780198.php<\/wbr><\/wbr><\/wbr><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>What&#8217;s the status of the $15,000 portapotty slated to be installed near the Levy?\u00a0 Why aren&#8217;t you proposing that that money be spent instead to open up the Soquel garage bathroom or the San Lorenzo restroom at night?\u00a0<\/strong> It would probably be cheaper, more durable, less segregated, and more sensible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Have you e-mailed your Cruzio server to ask them why the discrimination against homeless client Dan Madison and his son Gryphon?\u00a0\u00a0 (See <a href=\"https:\/\/www.indybay.org\/newsitems\/2013\/08\/14\/18741605.php\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.indybay.org\/<wbr>newsitems\/2013\/08\/14\/18741605.<wbr>php<\/wbr><\/wbr><\/a> ).\u00a0<\/strong> I include Dan&#8217;s e-mail (he does a Free Radio show under the name &#8220;Sean Deluge&#8221;) in case you wish to speak with him directly.<\/p>\n<p>Robert<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Micah (Posner):\u00a0\u00a0 Following up on the HUFF meeting of several weeks ago, I&#8217;ll attempt to briefly summarize what I&#8217;m now seeking&#8211;either clarification or action&#8211;from you on the issues raised there and earlier.\u00a0 Please do it briefly and in writing.\u00a0 If &hellip; 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