Assemblyman Ammiano’s Homeless Bill of Rights Sounds Better Than Expected

Ammiano’s “Homeless Bill of Rights”: Part Civil Rights, Part Prison Reform

Posted on 09 January 2013

By Dan Aiello


State Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) is following through on his promise to reform California’s prisons with the introduction of a homeless rights bill intended to decriminalize homelessness in the Golden State, protecting “some of society’s most vulnerable members.”

Make no mistake, Assembly Bill 5 is as much prison reform, as it is civil rights, legislation.

Among other things, the proposed law would require legal representation for anyone cited under local loitering, camping or panhandling ordinances.

It would give “every person in the state, regardless of actual or perceived housing status,” the rights to “use and move freely in public spaces,” to “rest in public spaces,” and to “occupy vehicles, either to rest or use for the purposes of shelter, for 24 hours a day, seven days a week,” according to Ammiano’s press release.

“Overall, this bill is about not being discriminated against if you are homeless,” said Ammiano. “A lot of it is aspirational. This is what we would love in a perfect world,” said Ammiano today.


In an interview last month regarding the Assemblyman’s wish to see significant prison reform, Ammiano told California Progress Report that our prisons have been an expensive “weapon of first choice” in the war on drugs, mental illness and homelessness.

Ammiano is a new generation of state government “reform” legislators – a California political legacy dating back to progressive Governor Hiram Johnson – and has fiercely sought to decriminalize marijuana while advocating its taxation as a revenue source for state government. It is the use of state prisons “as our weapon of choice in the wars on drugs, the mentally ill and the homeless, yes its increasingly illegal in this state to be homeless,” that was the biggest contributor to a prison population that has until realignment seemed uncontrollable, Ammiano told CPR.

“We have focused too much time money and effort at criminalizing mental illness, victimless crimes and homelessness and then perceiving all inmates as if they are all the same, and that has been part of our problem,” Ammiano told CPR.

Ammiano was pragmatic in what he told CPR was a waste of taxpayer dollars for a state “not any more safe,” for incarcerating administrative parole violators who missed appointments with parole officers, mental illness, victimless crimes like drug possession and and incarceration of the homeless for loitering, panhandling and camping.

California spent $72,000 per year, per prisoner in 2012. The Golden State has the highest recidivism rate in the nation, nearly 20 percent higher than the next highest state correctional system. And 45 percent of those who were returned to prison in the three year post-release time period were returned for “administrative parole violations, including missed appointments and positive drug tests,” according to the state’s 2011 survey. According to a 2012 Pew study, the total cost to California taxpayers for returning those former inmates who did not commit a violent crime or felony: $1 billion dollars.

Ammiano told CPR he believes placing the homeless and mentally ill in overcrowded state prisons is “immoral,” and likened their imprisonment to that of being thrown into state-run “Gladiator Academies.”

Ammiano Seeks New Moral Compass for California’s “Failed” Prisons

Posted on 04 December 2012
By Dan Aiello

In the wake of California’s election last month where voters passed two propositions aimed at reducing the number of inmates in California’s overcrowded prison system, the State Assembly’s Safety Committee Chair says he will introduce major prison reform this session targeting a correctional system failure rate that persists as the highest recidivism rate in the nation.

“With voters approving both propositions 30 and 36, I believe we are in a position to achieve significant prison reform to reduce our failure rate and begin decreasing our prison population,” San Francisco Democrat Assembly member Tom Ammiano told the California Progress Report recently.

“It’s not going to be easy as the issues that affect our prisons and inmates are complicated and numerous, but I believe we can achieve real reform if we are determined, strategic and remain focused on that goal,” Ammiano said.

Proposition 30, along with providing funding to California’s educational system, also will provide funding to local jails. These funds are intended to offset the cost city and county jails will incur as a result of the inmate population increases under the realignment plan which Governor Jerry Brown (D) introduced after a

Federal court ruled California’s overcrowded prison conditions amounted to “cruel and unusual punishment.”
Voters also passed proposition 36, amending the state’s tough on crime “Three Strikes” law largely attributed with tripling California’s inmate population within a few years of its passage. While the “Three Strikes” law was championed by conservative lawmakers, those same politicians opposed all legislation aimed at offsetting the cost to the state for the surge in inmate population that “Three Strikes” produced. As a result, California’s existing prisons became grossly overcrowded and increasingly dangerous for inmates. With no hope for a political solution, the state’s correctional system remained in crisis until a Federal court intervened last year, forcing state lawmakers to approve a plan to reduce the population.

“Thankfully, prop 36 reduces the number of those eligible for three strikes to only criminals who have committed serious offenses and not something like missing an appointment with a parole officer,” stated Ammiano, who said the state’s prison population actually began increasing “when Reagan closed the state’s mental institutions.”

But Ammiano, the legislator who has fiercely sought to decriminalize marijuana while advocating its taxation as a revenue source for state government, said it was the use of state prisons “as our weapon of choice in the wars on drugs, the mentally ill and the homeless – yes its increasingly illegal in this state to be homeless” that was the biggest contributor to a prison population that has until realignment seemed uncontrollable.

“As the state’s prison population rose, bad ideas flourished as a result,” Ammiano told CPR. “The same attitudes that said, ‘let’s just build more prisons,’ took money away from mental health, educational, vocational and rehab programs offered inside our prisons and outside to parolees.”

“Well duh,” Ammiano mocked, “we did everything to increase our prison population and the CDCR’s failure rate. Why are we surprised?”

In an annual report on the nation’s recidivism rates by state, 2012 saw California continue to lead by an increasingly wide margin the percentage of released felons who are re-incarcerated on new charges. The annual recidivism survey comparing how state correctional systems perform at successfully re-integrating their inmates has continued to rank California’s correctional system the worst failure rate, and by a large margin.

Just as the performance of the state’s educational system is assessed by the number of graduates and their test scores, the recidivism rate of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation reflects the system’s success at returning inmates to society by providing the percentage of parolees re-incarcerated within three years following their release.

Inmates released from California prisons are at least 20 percent more likely to be arrested and returned to prison then the second worst state, and up to 45% more likely to be back behind bars as their counterparts in the state with the lowest recidivism rate.

While in the past Californians largely blamed the individual for his or her return to prison, such empirical evidence, while not exonerating California inmates of all culpability, does shift the focus of reform efforts away from the incarcerated and toward the correctional and justice systems, including the purpose of incarceration, the experience of those incarcerated and even the crimes for which California has deemed incarceration an appropriate punishment.

“They took the money set aside for programs like Restart aimed at employing the ex-felons and used it to build more capacity for prisoners,” said Ammiano, suggesting a high rate of recidivism was the inevitable result of that strategy.

Additionally, Ammiano said that by sending the perpetrators of victimless crimes – such as someone possessing a small amount of marijuana – to overcrowded prisons, Californians inadvertently increased the number of potential felons and repeat offenders, as otherwise crime-naïve individuals were prosecuted for smoking pot and found themselves in highly tense and dangerous overcrowded prisons, which Ammiano referred to as “gladiator academies.”

“We’ve sent otherwise law-abiding citizens to prisons that were essentially gladiator academies, where an inmate is forced to choose between being a victim or victimizing others.”

Ammiano, whose legislative record has shown fiscal prudence, pointed out that California’s recidivism rate in 1980 was just 32% compared with 71% today. California currently pays more than $72,000 per prisoner per year. Reducing today’s prison population by 10% would result in a $233 million dollar per year savings, 20% would result almost a half billion dollar savings to the state’s general fund, so Ammiano says it is in the interests of both the fiscal conservative and the progressive politician to support prison reform that results in a smaller prison population, both at the state and county levels.

Assemblyman Ammiano cited a recent international magazine article where San Francisco’s Chief of Police pointed out that the City and County of San Francisco’s $422 million dollar jail budget had only a few million allocated for parolee re-entry, drug rehabilitation and mental illness programs.

“We need to start moving money toward Restart and other re-entry programs,” said Ammiano. “We need to address mental illness as just that, not as crime. It’s just not right that we have criminalized being mentally ill in this state. We’re smarter than that. We know better about these things now.

“There’s no question that our correctional system is a failure,” Ammiano told CPR. “Even by comparison to other correctional systems, it’s a failure. But the reasons our prisons are failing are beyond their control and I would challenge anyone who would look to blame our prisons, their staff or the staff of the CDCR. The reasons our system is failing are our laws, our budget priorities, our justice system and a host of reasons we need to address that are outside the authority of the CDCR. That’s why I intend to introduce legislation to move us forward, further forward than the governor’s realignment which has slowly begun to turn the tide on our prison population,” said Ammiano.

Assemblyman Ammiano said he plans to visit Pelican Bay, the site of last year’s hunger strike by inmates.


Dan Aiello reports for the Bay Area Reporter and California Progress Report.

Ammiano Seeks New Moral Compass for California’s “Failed” Prisons

Posted on 04 December 2012
Printer-friendly versionPrinter-friendly versionSend by emailSend by emailBy Dan Aiello
In the wake of California’s election last month where voters passed two propositions aimed at reducing the number of inmates in California’s overcrowded prison system, the State Assembly’s Safety Committee Chair says he will introduce major prison reform this session targeting a correctional system failure rate that persists as the highest recidivism rate in the nation.
“With voters approving both propositions 30 and 36, I believe we are in a position to achieve significant prison reform to reduce our failure rate and begin decreasing our prison population,” San Francisco Democrat Assembly member Tom Ammiano told the California Progress Report recently.
“It’s not going to be easy as the issues that affect our prisons and inmates are complicated and numerous, but I believe we can achieve real reform if we are determined, strategic and remain focused on that goal,” Ammiano said.
Proposition 30, along with providing funding to California’s educational system, also will provide funding to local jails. These funds are intended to offset the cost city and county jails will incur as a result of the inmate population increases under the realignment plan which Governor Jerry Brown (D) introduced after a Federal court ruled California’s overcrowded prison conditions amounted to “cruel and unusual punishment.”
Voters also passed proposition 36, amending the state’s tough on crime “Three Strikes” law largely attributed with tripling California’s inmate population within a few years of its passage. While the “Three Strikes” law was championed by conservative lawmakers, those same politicians opposed all legislation aimed at offsetting the cost to the state for the surge in inmate population that “Three Strikes” produced. As a result, California’s existing prisons became grossly overcrowded and increasingly dangerous for inmates. With no hope for a political solution, the state’s correctional system remained in crisis until a Federal court intervened last year, forcing state lawmakers to approve a plan to reduce the population.
“Thankfully, prop 36 reduces the number of those eligible for three strikes to only criminals who have committed serious offenses and not something like missing an appointment with a parole officer,” stated Ammiano, who said the state’s prison population actually began increasing “when Reagan closed the state’s mental institutions.”
But Ammiano, the legislator who has fiercely sought to decriminalize marijuana while advocating its taxation as a revenue source for state government, said it was the use of state prisons “as our weapon of choice in the wars on drugs, the mentally ill and the homeless – yes its increasingly illegal in this state to be homeless” that was the biggest contributor to a prison population that has until realignment seemed uncontrollable.
“As the state’s prison population rose, bad ideas flourished as a result,” Ammiano told CPR. “The same attitudes that said, ‘let’s just build more prisons,’ took money away from mental health, educational, vocational and rehab programs offered inside our prisons and outside to parolees.”
“Well duh,” Ammiano mocked, “we did everything to increase our prison population and the CDCR’s failure rate. Why are we surprised?”
In an annual report on the nation’s recidivism rates by state, 2012 saw California continue to lead by an increasingly wide margin the percentage of released felons who are re-incarcerated on new charges. The annual recidivism survey comparing how state correctional systems perform at successfully re-integrating their inmates has continued to rank California’s correctional system the worst failure rate, and by a large margin.
Just as the performance of the state’s educational system is assessed by the number of graduates and their test scores, the recidivism rate of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation reflects the system’s success at returning inmates to society by providing the percentage of parolees re-incarcerated within three years following their release.
Inmates released from California prisons are at least 20 percent more likely to be arrested and returned to prison then the second worst state, and up to 45% more likely to be back behind bars as their counterparts in the state with the lowest recidivism rate.
While in the past Californians largely blamed the individual for his or her return to prison, such empirical evidence, while not exonerating California inmates of all culpability, does shift the focus of reform efforts away from the incarcerated and toward the correctional and justice systems, including the purpose of incarceration, the experience of those incarcerated and even the crimes for which California has deemed incarceration an appropriate punishment.
“They took the money set aside for programs like Restart aimed at employing the ex-felons and used it to build more capacity for prisoners,” said Ammiano, suggesting a high rate of recidivism was the inevitable result of that strategy.
Additionally, Ammiano said that by sending the perpetrators of victimless crimes – such as someone possessing a small amount of marijuana – to overcrowded prisons, Californians inadvertently increased the number of potential felons and repeat offenders, as otherwise crime-naïve individuals were prosecuted for smoking pot and found themselves in highly tense and dangerous overcrowded prisons, which Ammiano referred to as “gladiator academies.”
“We’ve sent otherwise law-abiding citizens to prisons that were essentially gladiator academies, where an inmate is forced to choose between being a victim or victimizing others.”
Ammiano, whose legislative record has shown fiscal prudence, pointed out that California’s recidivism rate in 1980 was just 32% compared with 71% today. California currently pays more than $72,000 per prisoner per year. Reducing today’s prison population by 10% would result in a $233 million dollar per year savings, 20% would result almost a half billion dollar savings to the state’s general fund, so Ammiano says it is in the interests of both the fiscal conservative and the progressive politician to support prison reform that results in a smaller prison population, both at the state and county levels.
Assemblyman Ammiano cited a recent international magazine article where San Francisco’s Chief of Police pointed out that the City and County of San Francisco’s $422 million dollar jail budget had only a few million allocated for parolee re-entry, drug rehabilitation and mental illness programs.
“We need to start moving money toward Restart and other re-entry programs,” said Ammiano. “We need to address mental illness as just that, not as crime. It’s just not right that we have criminalized being mentally ill in this state. We’re smarter than that. We know better about these things now.
“There’s no question that our correctional system is a failure,” Ammiano told CPR. “Even by comparison to other correctional systems, it’s a failure. But the reasons our prisons are failing are beyond their control and I would challenge anyone who would look to blame our prisons, their staff or the staff of the CDCR. The reasons our system is failing are our laws, our budget priorities, our justice system and a host of reasons we need to address that are outside the authority of the CDCR. That’s why I intend to introduce legislation to move us forward, further forward than the governor’s realignment which has slowly begun to turn the tide on our prison population,” said Ammiano.
Assemblyman Ammiano said he plans to visit Pelican Bay, the site of last year’s hunger strike by inmates.

Right-wing Fresno Moves Ahead of “Liberal” Santa Cruz: Editorial in the Fresno Bee

28 Dec 2012

NOTE FROM NORSE:   Santa Cruz authorities–instead of focusing on the winter emergency for homeless people, the rising death rate, the shelter scarcity, and the increasing vigilante and police abuse of homeless people–are giving credence to “feces, needles, violence, and crime” mythology.  These issues are used by groups like Take Back Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz Neighbors, and the Downtown Association to forward their political schemes of criminalizing poor people and driving the visible homeless out of town.
Clearly what we need is a successful lawsuit like the one Fresno activists successfully pressed back in 2007.  Getting attorneys to take such a lawsuit depends on having lots of video and first-hand testimony about authorities destroying homeless gear.   I’m making a public records act request to determine how much property was picked up and actually stored last year.  If you have information, complaints, or want to help, please contact HUFF at 423-4833.



EDITORIAL: Judge allows homeless suit back into federal court

Thursday, Dec. 27, 2012 | 10:15 PM
We are ending a joyful holiday season of mercy, charity and compassion this week with Fresno being held accountable for its treatment of the poorest among us: the homeless.
U.S. District Court Judge Lawrence J. O’Neill ruled Wednesday that the fundamental issues of a lawsuit filed by people who alleged the city violated their rights will go forward. The city had asked that the case be dismissed.
The judge found that there is reason to bring this case to trial. His decision raises several questions:
Did the city violate a 2008 federal-court settlement over previous cleanup sweeps?
Did the city put the health and safety of the homeless in danger when it destroyed some shelters last winter? Does the timing during harsh weather reveal ulterior motives?
Answers to those and many other points will be considered in court while the evidence is heard.
There is a big problem in this city. Officials paid out $2.3 million in taxpayer funds to address previous violations. If the new rules were not followed, we could pay again.
Progress has been made since 2008. The city’s progressive philosophy of providing housing for the homeless and stabilizing their lives is commendable, but it cannot be the city’s only course of action. The officials also must attempt to solve the difficult problem of where the homeless live before they find housing.
Homelessness is a daunting challenge for major cities across America and Fresno is no exception. Just look anywhere in town — north, south, east or west — and it is clear that despite many worthwhile public and private efforts we see people living on the streets.
Constant vigilance is required. Encampments spring up with 10 people and within weeks, there can be colonies of shanties with dozens of residents. Nevertheless, the city must make every attempt not to put people in harm’s way while clearing homeless camps. In winter, inclement weather affects the health and safety of those without roofs over their heads.
Mayor Ashley Swearengin needs to ensure that all staff members at city hall are aligned in making the health and safety of the homeless a priority.
This is not only a question of mercy, charity and compassion but of law.

NOTES FROM FRESNO ACTIVISTS:

Kelly Borkert

I read it as a CYA attempt to distance themselves from the C of F policies they have reported upon so uncritically in the role of stengrapher. Literally.
I wish I could raise my expectations. I’ve seen their editorial and opinion pieces over the last 6 or 8 years. They are in danger of being blamed for whatever the City has led us into.  A little plagiarism and they look so much better, today. Just remember the differences between a mountain king and a coral snake. I wish them the best in their recovery.  and all of you a great new year!
kelly
Nancy Waidtlow

The emphasis on putting the homeless in harm’s way seems new. Different from just destroying their belongings. Sounds like a big step.

 Mike Rhodes
You know I’m a critic of The Fresno Bee’s coverage of homeless issues and most of their editorials.  That is why I was so pleased to read their editorial about the lawsuit in this morning’s paper.  In one form or another, this is what I have been saying for the last several years.  The text of the editorial is below.  Also, the link to the online version is here:

Mike Rhodes  Editor  Community Alliance Newspaper

Where Fresno leads, will Santa Cruz follow?

Where Fresno leads, will Santa Cruz follow?
27 Dec 2012

Santa Cruz authorities now claim that they are “storing” seized homeless property.  However, many accounts from homeless people whose property has been seized in the “surge” of anti-homeless “camping” (i.e. survival sleeping) tickets over the last year.  Activists peacefully protesting these activities or trying to find alternatives have themselves been the subject of criminal prosecutions under PC 647e (“lodging”).  Others, like myself, face actual felony charges for reporting on or supporting the 3-day occupation of a vacant Wells Fargo bank building last year.  Local Santa Cruz attorneys and activists need to be aware of this successful Fresno lawsuit–and the earlier one in 2007.  Hard to believe that Fresno is more liberal than Santa Cruz.


From: Mike Rhodes
Subject: [FresnoHomelessAdvocates] Lawsuit by Fresno homeless survives challenge

John Ellis wrote an article about the homeless and the lawsuits that have been filed against the City of Fresno.  The article is on the front page and above the fold.  See below.  If you want to read comments to the article, go to: http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/12/26/3114092/fresno-homeless-suit-survives.html
If anyone has been wondering why I have not been around lately, it is because I’m spending most of my time these days working on this case.

Mike Rhodes
Editor
Community Alliance Newspaper
PO Box 5077
Fresno Ca 93755
(559) 978-4502 (cell)
(559) 226-3962 (fax)
editor@fresnoalliance.com
www.fresnoalliance.com


Lawsuit by Fresno homeless survives challenge

By John Ellis – The Fresno Bee

Wednesday, Dec. 26, 2012 | 11:19 PM

A lawsuit filed by several homeless Fresno residents claiming the city violated terms of a 2008 federal-court settlement over cleanup sweeps has withstood a significant legal challenge.
In a 53-page ruling issued Wednesday, U.S. District Court Judge Lawrence J. O’Neill struck down some of the lawsuit. He also dismissed other parts but gave the plaintiffs the right to refile those claims.
The heart of the lawsuit, however, survives.
The city had asked O’Neill to throw out the entire lawsuit.
Instead, the judge allowed some arguments to continue — including whether the city put homeless in danger when it destroyed some shelters just as the winter of 2011-12 was beginning.
“I think it was a very thoughtful decision,” said Paul Alexander, the Palo Alto-based attorney who is leading the effort on behalf of the homeless. “We view all of the claims that have been upheld as very important. Judge O’Neill’s decision has also added clarity to the case, which is also important and which we appreciate.”
Francine Kanne, Fresno’s interim city attorney, said Wednesday that she hasn’t had a chance to analyze the ruling. But she noted that the court did “pare down a portion of the complaint and simplified some of the claims.”
She said the city should have a better idea where it stands after seeing if the plaintiffs address issues O’Neill threw out, but where he allowed amended claims to be filed.
O’Neill didn’t rule on the merits of the claims — only which claims can proceed.
The legal arguments moving forward could be similar to those of a 2006 lawsuit filed against the city by several homeless residents. In that lawsuit, the two sides reached a $2.3 million settlement over allegations that the city’s cleanup sweeps violated homeless residents’ Fourth Amendment rights, which protect against unreasonable searches and seizures, and their 14th Amendment rights to due process.
That initial suit arose after the city immediately destroyed possessions of homeless who weren’t present during the sweeps.
In this latest ruling — in which the city sought a dismissal — O’Neill acknowledges the ties to the earlier suit, saying this new lawsuit “cannot be understood in a vacuum, as the city of Fresno and its homeless population have a history of conflict and litigation.”
As part of that earlier settlement, the city agreed that for five years, it would adhere to an order that laid out in detail how and when the city could clean up homeless encampments. Part of the order said the city could not destroy “materials of apparent value which appear to be the property of any individual.”
The latest lawsuit alleges that homeless residents suffered financial, physical and emotional damage from the destruction of their tents and personal items, and that the city didn’t properly store property of the homeless.
It also says city officials didn’t properly notify the homeless for some cleanups.
In its motion for summary judgment, the city sought to kill the lawsuit, or to at least chip away at its foundation. Besides the city, Mayor Ashley Swearengin, City Manager Mark Scott, police Chief Jerry Dyer and others are named.
But Alexander said the important parts are still in play. Those include not only claims that the city seized and unlawfully destroyed homeless residents’ property, but also a due process claim that the city’s actions threatened “the safety and ability to survive of the homeless people whose shelters were destroyed just as the winter of 2011-12 began.”
In permitting that due process claim to stand, O’Neill’s ruling cites “danger creation” liability.
The ruling cites a case in which a state trooper determined that the driver of an automobile was intoxicated. The trooper arrested the driver and impounded the car. A woman passenger was left stranded at the scene late at night in a known high-crime area. She accepted a ride from a passing car and was raped.
Since that case, the ruling notes, the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals has held state officials liable “in a variety of circumstances for their roles in creating or exposing individuals to danger they otherwise would not have faced.”
The case O’Neill ruled on is one of 33 similar cases filed by 38 homeless people in Fresno’s federal court. The cases have been consolidated as they make their way through the court system.
What is still unknown is whether any of the homeless plaintiffs have any evidence to back up their legal claims. Fresno sought to have the case dismissed on legal grounds before any evidence has been presented.

Venice Jury’s Message: “Clean Up Your Act or the Homeless Community Will Do It For You” Resist the Bigotry and the Bigots Scatter !

Sun, 23 Dec 2012

PEOPLE vs BUSCH: Home-Made Porta-Potty On Third Ave Not A Crime

Posted: December 20, 2012

———————
Twelve jurors, on Wednesday, Dec 19, after about 1 hour of deliberation –found David Busch’s home-made Porta-Potty for the homeless, which was torn down and destroyed by the LAPD last April –had been a lawful benefit to the Venice community.
PORTA-POTTY-2

Early this year, after pushing hundreds of homeless people and youth travelers off of Venice Beach’s Boardwalk from midnight until 5 am in the morning –and with no toilets available until nearly 8 am, Busch had been arrested by LAPD and charged with “creating and maintaining a public nuisance” (P.C. 372); for erecting a homemade Porta-Potty on Third Ave, near Rose; where up to 120 people, with no toilets, had begun attempting to find a safe shelter.


Starting with a tent for privacy, and after the City’s, own, unlawful, beach closure –Busch began collecting donations of soap, cleaning supplies and toiletries –and himself emptying and re-cleaning daily a bucket and a toilet seat lid for the Porta-Potty. The setup was in line with procedures outlined in Red Cross emergency manuals.


Maintaining the Porta-Potty necessitated hauling tightly sealed 5 gallons buckets –nearly four large city blocks to the nearest public toilets –and often two or three times a day.


In proving his innocence, Mr. Busch had to demonstrate that the utility of his conduct outweighed any offense to the larger community.


Additionally, Busch also was charged with violating LAMC 56.11: “Leaving property on a public sidewalk or street:”


For having, also, thereafter on Third Ave., a shopping-cart sized wheeled box –which he called his “Love Box.”
After an six additional hours of deliberation, and after three requests to the Judge, for the court to clarify the law and testimony –regarding the vague charge, which were all denied, the jury, in response, returned it’s verdict:


“Guilty.”
For violating LAMC 56.11.


LAMC 56.11 has been for several years constrained by a Federal Injunction –to prevent seizure of homeless people’s property that is merely left on the sidewalk, and not abandoned. In this case, the Judge did not allow a proposed jury instruction, that would have stated the charge must be balanced by all people’s 4th Amendment Right to Property.


During sentencing, for his un-abandoned Love Box on the sidewalk, the Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office demanded that Busch be entirely banished from Venice –for three years.


The Judge, instead, sentenced Busch to no probation, one day in jail, and time served.


Stated Busch at the end of the trial. “Today, after three days, and hours and hours of absurd testimony, presented by LAPD officers and City Hazardous Waste employees: absurd testimony from Officers that they never saw urination or defecation in Venice’s streets, or gutters, or alley’s; testimony that feces –contained in a bucket and later dumped down the toilet, was a greater threat to the watershed than the more than 60 lbs of feces and urine deposited in the streets, sidewalks and alleys –And all of which, supposedly, was meant to pick apart my own effort to keep the area clean –Venice’s Police Officers were given new, common-sense orders by their highest authority, the people:


12 jurors have instructed LAPD to open up their eyes –and recognize that even a homemade porta-potty by a homeless person is better than urination and defecation everywhere in Venice’s streets.

David Busch was represented by Defense Attorney John Raphling; who provided his services Pro-Bono, and is a member of the National Lawyers’ Guild.

December 21, 2012
City Responds to Busch Verdict

Sandy Cooney, communications director for Los Angeles City Attorney’s office, gave the following statement regarding the verdict in the People vs. David Busch trial:
“That Mr. Busch was not found guilty of the public nuisance charge does not give him the right to violate the law. The result on this count is no guarantee of a similar outcome should there be a second offense, which we certainly hope will not occur.”


NOTE FROM NORSE:  And in the meantime, the message from the housed bureaucrats in Santa Cruz and Venice seems to be “hold your water and learn bowel control”.



Santa Cruz has no 24-hour bathrooms this side of hiway 1.  And only one on the distant side–in the Homeless (Lack of) Services Center.  The Clean Team activist Danilo T.J. Magallanes has called for public bathrooms, as it engaged in its dramatic and community-supported clean-up’s earlier this month.  They brought needles to City Council but also had available lots of fecal and waste material collected because of inadequate city clean-up and facilities.



12 years ago the City’s own Homeless Issues Task Force called for 24-hour bathrooms.  The city has done nothing–not even replaced the five portapotties that were in place for a few years around 2000 in response to activist demands.


Sign our petition – “Access To Toilets Is a Human Right” –  make toilets available to homeless people – http://www.change.org/petitions/access-to-toilets-is-a-human-right

Venice’s Own ‘Skid Rose’ Homeless Camp at 3rd Slowly Being Flushed by City Officials

By Simone Wilson Thu., May 3 2012 at 1:30 PM
noname-3.jpeg
Triangle Update
The LAPD busted well-known Venice homeless guy David Busch for setting up a toilet in his tent.

Ever since the LAPD started enforcing a strict curfew along the Venice boardwalk, the homeless hangout on 3rd street (located a few blocks inland) has blossomed into a bona fied bum party. The stretch of 3rd where they sleep, between Sunset and Rose, is mostly populated by businesses and warehouses. But as the camp has grown, the sleeping bags and shopping carts have begun creeping out onto residential sidewalks…
… and freaking out the gentry who live in the expensive, highly coveted homes along iconic Rose Avenue.
Thus earning this transplant boardwalk the name “Skid Rose.”
And for the moment, there’s nothing anybody can do about it, announced L.A. City Councilman Bill Rosendahl on his blog yesterday (after the LA Weekly repeatedly asked for an interview on the subject for about a week).
“Due to two court cases … the City’s ability to enforce its laws has been significantly restricted,” writes Rosendahl. The gist: Until 1,250 housing units are built for homeless folks in L.A., they’re allowed to sleep on the sidewalk. The L.A. Housing Department informs Rosendahl that the city is still “several hundred” units short.
But cops and politicians are apparently circumventing those legal ramifications by nabbing the homeless at 3rd and Rose for other crimes.
Namely, resting or storing their possessions on the sidewalk between the hours of 6 a.m. and 9 p.m., which is still illegal, says LAPD Lieutenant Paola Kreeft. Other drifters have been busted for drugs, violence, breaking into cars, etc.
Rosendahl begs residents to have a little compassion:

“The question should not be: should we allow people to sleep on the streets? The question must be: how do we provide people housing, services, and shelter so no one has cause to sleep on the street?”

But a big problem with the Venice “homeless” population is that many are free spirits by choice, and would never choose a shelter over the sea breeze. Homeless man and activist David Busch, pictured above with his in-tent toilet, told us recently that he felt the city was unfairly “lumping street vendors, hippies and beach travelers” into the same category as Venice’s long-standing homeless population. Perhaps, he speculated, so that cops can uniformly kick them all out — and the neighborhood can complete its transition to gentrified tourist trap.
Mark Ryavec, the fierce anti-homeless advocate who runs the Venice Stakeholders Association (and who recently posted his adversaries’ home addresses online, causing a community flamewar), says that a brigade of city officials descended upon the encampment last Friday.
The team included LAPD cops on horses, bio-hazard guys from the Department of Public Works and representatives from L.A. City Hall — including Public Works commissioner Andrea Alarcon, royal offspring of City Councilman Richard Alarcon. Also present was the mayor’s Westside deputy, Joseph Hari.
And Venice resident Reta Moser has the photos to prove it:

noname.jpeg
Triangle Update
“Howard Wong of Bureau of Sanitation (center) and his helper test and remove buckets as Andrea Alarcon films and watches.”
noname-2.jpeg
Triangle Update
“Officer Gil discusses situation with [homeless advocate] Peggy Lee Kennedy as officer and Joseph Hari look on.”

Ryavec of the Stakeholder’s Association says the mayor’s apparent new interest in clearing Skid Rose may have to do with a little run-in they had recently at a swanky restaurant on Melrose. A few highlights from the ensuing conversation, via Ryavec’s blog:

“When I told him that I wanted to talk with him about the problems we are having with transient encampments in Venice, he interrupted me and said the real problem was that the council district ‘has no leadership.’ Then he made another derogatory remark about Bill Rosendahl.”

“Then he said, ‘But if you want me involved, I will get involved. You may not like my solution, but you will get a solution. Did you hear me today [referring to his successes with transportation improvements]? I get things done.'”

“I’ll leave you with the Mayor’s parting comments at Mozza: ‘You know, when I leave office, I’m going to move to either Venice or the Pacific Palisades, so I have a personal interest in helping you with this.'”

Ryavec tells the Weekly that since last Friday, when the encampment at 3rd was scrubbed of its dirt and its drifters, “a few of them have come back.” However, he says city officials have promised to “come back this Friday and the week after that, until [homeless people] get the message that this is not a campground.”
Rosendahl confirms: “Further clean-ups will happen, and on a regular basis.”
Meanwhile, the real Skid Row, where the mayor certainly never intends to live out his golden years, is clogging up with more transients and trash bags than ever before, the LAPD tells Blogdowntown. Looks like one grimy stretch of downtown L.A. might be the official dumping ground for riff-raff scraped off the city’s finer sidewalks.

about that Venice Beach encampment, or “Skid Row West”…

Posted on May 6, 2012 by Katherine
City workers cleaning around the Venice encampments—where are these guys in Skid Row—the ORIGINAL Skid Row that is?

 

Venice Beach has been getting a lot of cross-press with Skid Row recently with a homeless encampment that has sprung up along 3rd and Rose Streets. I have been following this story in the press, click here for some info in this. In recent weeks, dozens of homeless people have been sleeping in this area after the city began enforcing an overnight curfew on the Venice Boardwalk.

This area is now being called, “Skid Row West”, or “Skid Rose”, (because of the Rose Street location). Unfortunately, the City of Los Angeles has yet to find real solutions or build enough housing for the homeless population of this fine City, so people continue to be just pushed around from one place to the next. Some say the people on the streets are merely “housing resistant”, others acknowledge that the majority on the streets now are either mentally ill or serious substance abusers or both (which is my opinion). Whichever the case may be- Los Angeles has no real solutions for the thousands of people on her streets nightly- unlike other large metropolises across America which have made great strides in getting vulnerable people off the streets. Click here to read a  great article by Steve Clare who is executive director of the Venice Community Housing Corporation, a nonprofit housing and community development organization serving the Westside of Los Angeles about real workable solutions for the homeless of LA.

In reading about this situation in Venice here, I couldn’t help but notice a glaring disparity in the way the City is cleaning up around the encampments over there on the Westside- as opposed to over here in the real Skid Row. According to the LA Weekly article linked to above called, Venice’s Own ‘Skid Rose’ Homeless Camp at 3rd Slowly Being Flushed by City Officials, by Simone Wilson Thus., May 3 2012


…The team included LAPD cops on horses, bio-hazard guys from the Department of Public Works and representatives from L.A. City Hall — including Public Works commissioner Andrea Alarcon, royal offspring of City Councilman Richard Alarcon. Also present was the mayor’s Westside deputy, Joseph Hari.


…Rosendahl confirms: “Further clean-ups will happen, and on a regular basis.”

Where are the bio-hazard guys for the REAL Skid Row? We have a serious, entrenched and consistent need for out streets to be power-washed of human waste in the form of urine, feces and vomit that NEVER get cleaned. I will be looking into getting over here whatever they get over there- we are ALL City of LA. I have never heard of the LA Department of Public Works doing any clean-up for Skid Row.

Great strides have been made recently with Operation Face-Lift/Skid Row 2012, which began in 2008 by actual community residents of Skid Row (watch video here), click here for more information about the 2012 re-energized movement. We have gotten the attention of the City, so that now Street Services- click here for the update- and the Bureau of Sanitation, click here for the 411 on this- have gotten on board with help for our garbage laden streets. But the need is still great, as is our lack of trash receptacles. I’m not sure what is going on over in Venice- but to be clear- Operation Face-Lift is interested primarily in connecting with the people on the streets and getting their involvement and participation in the community-at-large- NOT pushing them away to some other place out of sight, out of mind.

Curious about what all the fuss is over on the Westside- I took a drive over to “Skid Rose” on Friday at about 6pm. What I saw was…not much at all. A few, maybe 3 or 4 bags of what looked like people’s personal belongings, one loveseat, one tent and a couple of gentlemen with shopping carts. I saw no garbage on the streets, no piles of trash anywhere. Frankly, I am confused and slightly angry at all the attention given to this so-called encampment when the needs in our downtown streets far outweigh anything over in Venice- at least from what I personally witnessed on this day. Maybe someone can explain the difference in services that  the Westside gets as compared to my neighborhood, the REAL Skid Row.

Venice Homeless File Damage Claims Against L.A.

A March street cleanup in Venice in which homeless people had their belongings trashed prompted a Santa Monica civil rights attorney to file damage claims against the city of Los Angeles.

A civil rights attorney has filed damage claims against Los Angeles for the March 7 cleanup on 3rd Avenue in which city trash collectors hauled off personal belongings.

Santa Monica-based civil rights attorney Carol Sobel said Friday that she filed the damage claims, which is often a precursor to a lawsuit.

The trash haul March 7 took place on 3rd Avenue between Rose and Sunset avenues and was done by the Los Angeles City Bureau of Sanitation, which is part of the city’s Department of Public Works. Los Angeles City Councilman Bill Rosendahl at the time said the cleanup occurred following many complaints about public urination, defecation, blocked sideways and trash in the street.

A handful of homeless people were allowed to rummage through heaps of garbage the day after the cleanup to search for their personal belongings in a city sanitation yard. David Busch, a homeless activist, pulled his laptop from the trash heap as well as several art pieces. A homeless couple found food, money and clothes among the mounds of trash.
Many of the homeless who lost belongings couldn’t make it to the sanitation yard and had lost money, medication and legal papers, Busch said.

Rosendahl said afterward that he would make it a policy going forward to give the homeless a courtesy notice before cleanups. He later told the Venice Chamber of Commerce during a luncheon that 3rd Avenue would be cleaned up on a weekly basis.

Busch, who sleeps on 3rd Avenue, said a cleanup Thursday morning was met by homeless people who stayed next to their property to prevent it from being thrown away. They were joined by Occupy Venice, Sobel and members of the National Lawyers Guild, who helped tag and guard belongings.
The garbage trucks left after Rosendahl intervened, Busch said.

The homeless in Venice recently have been impacted by a series of developments, including: the recent ban on overnight camping along the Venice Beach boardwalk, limitations on overnight parking for large vehicles and a program to transition vehicle dwellers into housing.

COMMENTS FROM VENICE:

Solecurious

12:07 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2012

This is the dilemma the city struggles with as the homeless population grows unabated. We are not the 1% but we own a home. We, the middle-income, are in a lose-lose-lose situation. While we continue to pay property tax in an eroding housing market, our garage at the back of our home became a public toilet and garbage dump to the homeless.
Guess who has to clean up? We installed a sensor light and the frequency reduced, especially treating our place like a toilet. Every now and then, I still have to remove empty food cartons, old clothing (yes, even underwear) and belonging. Who wants their home to smell like a toilet or look like a dump?
I understand the activists came from a compassionate ground. But they are too close to the forest to see the trees. The money that went into legal suits would be better served for the entire community if it went to solutions to solve the homeless situation and assist homeowners with the cleaning costs. Enough fighting. Start looking for solutions instead!

Deborah Lashever (in response)

8:34 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

Yes! Solutions are easy! Public restrooms, trash cans would be a good start! The residents complain about trash but the city will supply no trash cans. Residents complain about pooping and peeing but yet the city supplies no porta potties. Who is at fault here? The people who, must pee and put their trash away but have no where to do so or the city for not providing facilities for the entire public?
Please do not blame people who have no resources for oversights the city makes! Complain to the city that it needs to serve all of it’s community members better rather than disrespect the unHoused for having no options. Thank you.

jockiemc

4:05 pm on Friday, April 6, 2012

I agree, we own a business at the end of 3rd street and clients employees are afraid to come and go from the office late at night because of how tricky things look out on 3rd. Overall the problem has to be solved in some way but people living on the street taking drugs and drinking themselves into oblivion is not great for us or more importantly for them! There is no real answer we the people who are running businesses or owning homes have to make as much noise as possible otherwise this issue will become bigger and bigger. i encourage everyone with an interest to call your local councilor and make some noise!

Deborah Lashever
(in response)

8:42 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

Rather than “making noise” why don’t you demand services that will keep your community cleaner? Demand more porta potties! Demand more trash cans! Demand the Check=in Center for all their belongings! Demand services in Venice! Don’t just hate and bitch….help we who have solutions that are trying to implement them by telling your reps they need to listen to people with real solutions (not strong arm tactics) and implement them! We are all in this together, like it or not. We ALL make up our community!
If you just “make noise” people get abused and the situation stays the same….
Peace.

Another WorldView

1:11 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Can I ask which business you own?
And while some people may have a fear of the UnHoused, some people also fear “blacks” and “mexicans”. Should we as a society, indulge their irrational fears, too? Which Constitutional rights are we ALL willing to sacrifice to assuage the unfounded fears of small number of people.
I have walked and biked down on 3rd street at all hours of the day and night – and have never had any problems, for the most part these folks seem like they just want to be left alone (as we Housed folks have the freedom to be, whenever we like).
And it should be noted, that while there MAY be some increase in the numbers on 3rd, since the police declared the OFW to be a “park” – all of a sudden, there have always been people down there sleeping at night.
Now there are two new (gigantic) HID lamps (I suppose we’re lucky on the “drug” front that no one is exercising their state right to grow ‘medicine’ under those, BTW) new LED street lights, and a 24/7 camera. If anything, that may be the safest street in “the ‘hood”, where you’ve decided to place your business.

(Very Interesting Follow-Up Discussion at http://venice.patch.com/articles/venice-homeless-file-damage-claims-against-los-angeles )

NOTE FROM NORSE:  If Venice can expose the bigotry and bullshit, with some energetic media response (even on the comment sections) and some street theater (long live David Busch and Peggy Lee Kennedy!) and some attorney muscle (lawsuits for destruction of homeless property are an obvious need), why can’t we do that here?

Tasty Survival Soup

Chow Down with Tasty Survival Soup

Compliments of Jumbogumbo Joe Schultz of India Joze Restaurant

Tuesday 7 PM December 11th

Outside City Council Chambers 809 Center St.

Last Council Meeting of the Year Ignores Winter Shelter Emergency

Wander inside as the Old City Council pats itself on the back and the New City Council makes speeches and takes office. The Councilthen adjournsto warm beds until January 8th, leaving 90% of the homeless community without shelter and illegal if they make it themselves.

Pamela Comstock, Cynthia Mathews, and Micah Posner take office replacing Katherine Beiers, Tony Madrigal, and Ryan Coonerty during the evening session of City Council.

8-8:30 PM (time uncertain)

Civic Auditorium 307 Church St.

Schmooze with shady politicians & mangling media

Share coffee & snacks across the street in the Civic

Fight the Crackdown, Ticketing, & Property Seizures

Demand A Ceasefire in the Winter War Against the Homeless Community

Demand ACTION to increase shelter this winter, let homeless people legally shelter themselves somewhere, provide legal overnight park-and-sleep places for those in vehicles, and rein in abusive police officers and vigilante attacks.

When the Council takes NO ACTION…

Organize independently for survival and self-defense.

Don’t roll over for brutality and bigotry!

Bring Sleeping Bags, Blankets, Cameras, and Friends.

BRING BACK SANTA CRUZ

Flier by Norse of HUFF (Homeless United for Friendship & Freedom) 423-4833 www.huffsantacruz.org 309 Cedar PMB #14B S.C. 12-6-12




See also “Taste the Tedium & Terror Tuesday” at




http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/12/07/18727411.php?show_comments=1#18727412

Reflections on “Smart Solutions”

Reflections on “Smart Solutions” link to original post

December 7th, 2012The following was written by a HUFF activist, one of several who went to a Conference organized by Mayor Don Lane and others as described below.   This was originally published on the Occupy Santa Cruz website.

 

After attending Saturday’s big show, “Smart Solutions to Homelessness: A Countywide Community Engagement Summit,” I gathered a smattering of feedback from “Occupy Folks” on how they felt about the event.  Consensus seems to be, “It was not very useful.”  We (tongue-in-cheek, but seriously) KNOW TOO MUCH.
I understand the need for governmental and non-profit entities to communicate with the public regarding their needs.  WE KNOW that volunteers are needed for the befriending, mentoring, and support of people in distress.  WE KNOW that material resources are needed to feed, shelter, and house people who are hungry and have nowhere safe to stay.  WE KNOW that there is no “one size fits all solution to homelessness.”  It is unfortunate that those who design the agendas of large meetings like this one are unable to withstand conflicting viewpoints about public policy priorities.
Here are a few “Smart Solutions” — my public policy priorities:

  1. Decriminalization of “survival behaviors” such as sleeping at night, camping in your car, or using a blanket to keep warm
  2. Legalization of drugs, and, hand-in-hand, helping people to learn ways of coping with the emotional pain that can result in addictive behaviors
  3. Creating safe places to camp
  4. Subsidizing low-cost permanent housing
  5. Providing resources to mutual aid and self-help networks for material and emotional support of all people
  6. Supporting families so there will be fewer children put into foster care
  7. Transforming the economy so that there will be safe, environmentally sustainable, and meaningful work for everyone at a living wage
     I despair over the lack of compassion actually expressed at the meeting, which seemed scant, aside from a “before and after” set of pictures of one homeless man who became permanently housed in Los Angeles. The “problem” that the “smart solutions” seem to be set to solve is “inefficient allocation of public resources.”  So the work being done “to end homelessness” is framed in terms of money to be saved instead of lives to be saved.
          At Saturday’s meeting I summarized a small exchange of perspectives between of five or six persons on the question, “What will the future look like without homelessness?”  I said that there would be personal dignity, care for each other in community, and good feelings about everyone.  I’m afraid that was the wrong question to ask.  My question to you is, “What are you going to do about the reality of homelessness in our community right now?”

2 Responses to “Reflections on “Smart Solutions””

  1. Sylvia on December 7th, 2012 at 1:54 pm #
    I’m glad for the opportunity to exchange about this. My reflections:
    All the people I engaged with wanted to talk, a lot, not particularly about the issue that brought us all together. So I think the high attendance, because of or in spite of the rain, met a need for community, cooperation, acting together. I think the issue was arguably secondary, which doesn’t make the result any less valuable.
    I heard much particularity, and little, maybe no, grand vision five years out. I heard a lot of buzz words and favorite themes, affordable housing, public spaces, safety, services … more of what we know (and what isn’t really working).
    The simplification and harmonization suggested by the successful LA business model is compelling. I began to wonder about the strings that come with federal funding (I’d just learned about ALEC) and the consequences of public/private partnerships and how liberty and privatization mesh.
    Occupy Sandy has done positive things. Here’s an idea for a local positive project – Occupy the Central Branch Public Library. HUFF had a flier about the Dec 3 library board meeting. Saturday I sat next to a Santa Cruz Public Library staff person – there are a lot of people who use the library as a daytime shelter, warmth, bathrooms, … Some of those people have trouble with rules and regulation and the library has hired a security person to patrol and be available. And is considering more limitations on behavior and appearance. I see an opportunity for Occupy Santa Cruz to organize itself, be visible, be available in shifts, reach out, provide personal support, find out what’s lacking in the available supports.

  2. Sylvia on December 8th, 2012 at 9:45 am #
    TBSC members testified at 12/3 Board of Supervisors public comment, emphasizing the needles they found on the tracks and at the beach, and a couple of bodies, and noting they will be at the 12/17 city safety meeting. The group is focusing on drugs and needles. This could lead to demonizing many, painting all deviance with a broad ‘substance abuse’ brush. There are noisy federal initiatives about stopping abuse of prescription drugs, limiting the availability of pain relief medication … It seems a very harsh world, a world insistent on suffering.

Norse comment:

TBSC stands for Take Back Santa Cruz a group co-founded by newly elected Councilmember Pamela Constock, with a focus on community vigilante and police action against “illegal” behavior, particularly public drug use, “sketchy” characters in public places doing things like camping or panhandling, and random violence.

A Matter of Priority: End Homelessness or Buy Christmas Lights?

12.11.12

by Abby Zimet


The federal government has made strides in reducing the ranks of the chronically homeless and of homeless veterans, but the numbers of homeless overall has stayed steady at close to 700,000, the latest annual report from the Department of Housing and Urban Development shows. The thing is: Officials say homelessness in the U.S. could be “effectively eradicated” at an annual cost of about $20 billion – or, ThinkProgress notes, what the country spends each year on Christmas decorations.

Comments

  • cripesa day ago

    So, it’s not really a “budget” issue after all. Like the rest of the phony budget issues, it’s really a matter of priorities. And the priorities we’ve been following for years have been foreign wars, drug war, war on the poor, endless subsidies to wealthy corporations and wealthy people, guaranteed profits and no risk for billionaires, micromanaging peoples personal and sexual behaviors, etc.
    Providing living wage employment, health care, disaster relief and decent housing just isn’t part of our government’s “job.” I guess we can thank Reagan and the libertarian crowd for that.
    • John Buchanan cripesa day ago

      The Homelessness Prevention and Rapid Re-Housing Program (HPRP, funded
      through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009) was a $1.5
      billion federal effort to prevent a recession-related increase in
      homelessness. The second link..
      It ran out this fall so we can expect it to get worse… unless psychopaths experience spontaneous remission.
      \
      • Justin Smith John Buchanan14 hours ago

        In my experience, in Indiana, it ended in June,leaving families that it contracted to help, losing their rent money abruptly and months before they were told that it would end.
        Thank the Republicans!
    • Thomas Jefferson cripesa day ago

      I’m a Left Libertarian,
      But I gave you an up vote anyway, since I think you hit the nail on the head.
      “A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have.”
      That quote attributed to Jefferson is exactly what’s happened. The EPA, the FDA, and FEMA never do their jobs anymore since K street Lobbists always show up showering those federal administrators with goodies. The NRC is always stuffed with Nuke industry executives. The FDA with big junk food, big Ag, Big FrankenFood and Pharma gold diggers. Your tax money, is used instead for endless war and wasteful corporate pork.
      Better to just shut down everything but Social Security and EPA and National Parks and start over imho. If we don’t close down that corrupt political city in D.C., nothing is ever going to change, imho.
      The main Libertarian planks are supposed to be eliminating Foreign Wars, Bailouts, Drug prohibition, Central Banking oppression, sexual interference, Bill of Rights, etc. Right Libertarians (retread Repukes) are not on board those main planks of the Libertarian Party, as far as I can tell. It’s a big problem in America. Libertarians in other parts of the world are not Republicans in costume. Many Libertarians in the USA seem to confuse liberty for individuals with de-regulation of fictitious entities like Wall Street Corporations.
      Ronald Raygun actually grew the government as did both bushes (The blank checks to DOD for black programs, missiles etc caused a lot of that.) This is not consistent with Libertarian ideology, so I don’t think you can lump the two together.
      The Far left always thinks that government functions as advertized, while the Libertarian instinctively distrusts all government, since the very nature of it is misplaced trust and betrayal.
      TJ
      “Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?” – Thomas Jefferson, in his 1801 inaugural address
  • Keith McHenry16 hours ago

    If you place “750,000 homeless Americans” in Google News You will see that the number of homeless Americans has stayed the same since1992. I have been sharing food with Americas homeless since 1980 and it is not heard to see that the numbers of people living on the streets has increased far beyond the “official” annually repeated numbers into the millions. www.foodnotbombs.net
  • gardenernorcal18 hours ago

    I am not certain why we are focussing on how much is spent on Christmas Decorations. We could just spend a quarter of what was spent on beer in 2010 and cure the problem.

    A total of $101 billion was spent on beer in 2010.

    http://retireby40.org/2012/01/
    Or we could consider the 12.8 trillion spent to bail out Wall St.. I personally get more out of enjoying other peoples Christmas decorations then I did out of saving Wall St..
    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-t…
    Even then you’re not going to solve the homeless problem totally if no one is charged with the care of the mentally unstable. Does that 20 billion include that? Or is this the basic think tank figure that averages how much housing would cost for an estimated number?

    • Don Lutz gardenernorcal14 hours ago

      I would imagine the issue comes up because it’s Xmas time.
      But your point is well taken.
      How much time, energy and land is wasted to grow, transport and kill 100 million Xmas trees every year?
    • dkshaw gardenernorcal14 hours ago

      Anheiser Busch spends $10,000,000,000 (not a misprint, ten billion dollars) a year on ADVERTISING alone.
  • Grant Schreibera day ago

    Well hell’s bells. If we wipe out the capital gains dodge, we not only end homelessness, but get FREE Christmas decorations. Let’s do that.
  • Jag_Levak13 hours ago

    And out of that 700,000, it would appear one million of them are children:
    http://tinyurl.com/7kkvsjy
    I guess the good news there is that the number of adult homeless isn’t merely zero, but 300,000 less than zero.

for more comments go  to:  http://www.commondreams.org/further/2012/12/11-3

The Proposed California Homeless Bill of Rights and Santa Cruz–Preliminary Thoughts

Robert Norse

The California Homeless Bill of Rights, modeled after the Rhode Island bill which passed this summer, is being heralded as a strong step towards ending selective enforcement, anti-homeless laws, and institutionalized Hate Crime. Since Santa Cruz has been a leader in these fields (that is, in laws the pioneer harassing the homeless), will the Bill of Rights impact homeless people on the ground here. The answer is unclear but activists in other cities are hopeful…

cont. at   http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/12/14/18728066.php

The Proposed California Homeless Bill of Rights and Santa Cruz–Preliminary Thoughts
by Robert Norse
Friday Dec 14th, 2012 7:59 PM

The California Homeless Bill of Rights, modeled after the Rhode Island bill which passed this summer, is being heralded as a strong step towards ending selective enforcement, anti-homeless laws, and institutionalized Hate Crime. Since Santa Cruz has been a leader in these fields (that is, in laws the pioneer harassing the homeless), will the Bill of Rights impact homeless people on the ground here. The answer is unclear but activists in other cities are hopeful.

Some positive activist response to the Bill:

http://www.californiality.com/2012/12/california-homeless-bill-of-rights.html (comments by Sacramento Homeless Organizing Committee activist Paula Lomazzi)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/115086286/California-Homeless-Bill-of-Rights-Press-Release-2012-12-01 (comments by Western Regional Advocacy Project activist Paul Boden)

Boden’s editorial in the S.F. Chronicle: http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/California-needs-rights-for-homeless-4091545.php

The S.F.Chronicle’s description of the bill: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Tom-Ammiano-backs-homeless-rights-bill-4091599.php

A right-wing attack on the bill believes the it to be more powerful than I think it is:
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/Tom-Ammiano-s-homeless-bill-is-bad-idea-4095005.php

The bill passed in Rhode Island back in June. I haven’t gotten any clear sense of how it has changed police or prosecution activity there, but I’m still in the research stage.

The main problem in nullifying the local anti-homeless laws is that they don’t use the word “homeless” but give the illusion of impacting everyone equally as a justifiable “time, place, and manner” restriction on constitutional liberty. In fact, the Sleeping Ban, the Sitting Ban, the Panhandling Ban–are anything but.

I include two flyers I distributed at the last City Council meeting of the year.

§Selections from the Proposed California Bill of Rights

by Robert Norse Friday Dec 14th, 2012 7:59 PM


§Text of the Two Flyers

by Robert Norse Friday Dec 14th, 2012 8:01 PM
Selections from the Proposed California Homeless Bill of Rights

This bill would enact the Homeless Person’s Bill of Rights and Fairness Act, which would provide that no person’s rights, privileges, or access to public services may be denied or abridged because he or she is homeless, has a low income, or suffers from a mental illness or physical disability. The bill would provide that every person in the state, regardless of actual or perceived housing status, income level, mental illness, or physical disability, shall be free from specified forms of discrimination and shall be entitled to certain basic human rights, including the right to be free from discrimination by law enforcement,…..

The bill would further prohibit discrimination under the above-described existing law provisions on the basis of “housing status,” would define that term to include homelessness, and would make conforming changes to related provisions, ………………………………

SECTION 1. This act shall be known & may be cited as the “Homeless Person’s Bill of Rights and Fairness Act.” SEC. 2. The Legislature finds and declares all of the following: (a)  In the State of California, there has been a long history of discriminatory laws and ordinances that have disproportionately affected people with low incomes and who are without homes, including, but not limited to, all of the following:

(1)  Jim Crow laws: After the Civil War, many states, especially in the south, passed laws denying African Americans basic human rights. In California, these laws also targeted Chinese immigrants. In San Francisco, Chinese residents were forced to live in one area of the city. The same segregation laws also prohibited interracial marriage between Chinese and non-Chinese persons.

(2)  Ugly laws: In 1867, San Francisco was the first city in the country to pass a law making it illegal for people with “unsightly or disgusting” disabilities to appear in public. In many cities, these laws persisted until the 1970s.

(3)  Anti-Okie laws: In 1937, California passed an Anti-Okie law that criminalized “bringing or assisting in bringing” extremely poor people into the state. The United States Supreme Court struck down the law in 1941, when it declared that these laws are in violation of the Commerce Clause, and therefore unconstitutional.

(4)  Sundown towns: Town policies and real estate covenants were aimed at preventing minorities and other persons considered to be socially undesirable from remaining within city limits after sunset. Thousands of these towns existed prior to the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which made these ordinances and covenants illegal.

(5)  Vagrancy laws:  Vagrancy laws have been held to be discriminatory on their face because they criminalize a person’s status rather than a behavior. Nevertheless, these laws existed in California until the Legislature revised them in 1961.
(b)  “Quality of life” ordinances, “civil sidewalk” ordinances, and similar initiatives are the modern reincarnations of laws designed to force homeless people to flee local jurisdictions. These local ordinances result in de facto segregation as homeless people are forced out of specific jurisdictions or out of specific neighborhoods within jurisdictions. These discriminatory policies subject municipalities to an increased financial burden of caring for the homeless who have migrated there from their chosen home municipality in relief of the discriminatory legislation.  These practices tend to condemn large groups of inhabitants to dwell in segregated districts or under depressed living conditions that result in crowded, unsanitary, substandard, and unhealthful accommodations. Furthermore, these policies result in criminalization of homeless persons who choose not to migrate………
(c)  Today, in the state many people are denied the following(1)  Housing due to their status of being homeless, living in a shelter, a vehicle, the street, or the public domain. (2)  Housing or shelter due to …… (7)  Access to safe, clean restrooms & hygienic supplies necessary to maintain health, safety, & dignity.
(d)  Homeless persons are unfairly targeted by law enforcement, often resulting in the violation of the homeless persons’ constitutional rights. Lacking the resources necessary to obtain adequate legal representation, homeless persons are often denied relief or damages through the courts……….
(l)  Concordant with this fundamental belief, a person should not be subject to discrimination based on his or her housing status, income level, or mental or physical disability. Therefore, it is the intent of the Legislature in enacting this act to ameliorate the adverse effects visited upon individuals and our communities when the residents of this state are homeless.
SEC. 3. Section 51 of the Civil Code is amended to read: 51. (a)  This section shall be known, and may be cited, as the Unruh Civil Rights Act….
(b)  All persons within the jurisdiction of this state are free and equal, and no matter what their sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, medical condition, genetic information, marital status, or sexual orientation, or housing status, are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services in all business establishments of every kind whatsoever….
(3)  “Housing status” means the status of having or not having a fixed or regular residence, including the status of living on the streets, in a vehicle, or in a homeless shelter, or similar temporary residence or elsewhere in the public domain….
(f)  “Homeless” means those individuals or families who lack a fixed, regular, and adequate nighttime residence and who have a primary nighttime residence in a shelter, on the street, in a vehicle, in an enclosure or structure that is not authorized or fit for human habitation, substandard apartments, dwellings, doubled up temporarily with friends or families, or staying in transitional housing programs.  “Homeless” means any person staying in a residential hotel without tenancy rights, and families with children staying in a residential hotel whether or not they have tenancy rights.
(g)  “Housing status” means the status of having or not having a fixed or regular residence, including the status of living on the streets, in a vehicle, or in a homeless shelter, or similar temporary residence or elsewhere in the public domain….
(k)  “Public space” means any space that is predominantly within the public domain or that is held open to the public, including, but not limited to, plazas, courtyards, parking lots, sidewalks, public transportation, public buildings and parks, and may also refer to those places that receive additional services through business improvement districts or other, similar public-private partnerships.

53.2. No person’s rights, privileges, or access to public services may be denied or abridged because he or she is homeless, has a low income, or suffers from a mental illness or physical disability. Such a person shall be granted the same rights and privileges as any other resident of this state. Every person in the state, regardless of actual or perceived housing status, income level, mental illness, or physical disability, shall be free from all of the following:
(a)  Any type of discriminatory treatment by law enforcement, public or private security personnel, business owners, property managers, or BID agents, including, but not limited to, harassment, intimidation, or selective enforcement…..
(e)  Unreasonable searches or seizures of his or her personal property, including property stored in vehicles, tents, grocery carts, bags, or any other carrying or storage device, if the intervention of law enforcement is based upon the actual or perceived housing status, income level, mental illness, or physical disability of the person in possession of the property.

53.3. Every person in the state, regardless of actual or perceived housing status, income level, mental illness, or physical disability, shall have the right to all of the following basic human rights and legal and civil protections:
(a)  The right to use and move freely in public spaces, including, but not limited to, plazas, parking lots, public sidewalks, public parks, public transportation, public streets, and public buildings,
in the same manner as any other person, and without discrimination.
(b)  The right to rest in public spaces without being subject to criminal or civil sanctions, harassment, or arrest by law enforcement, public or private security personnel, or BID agents, as long as such rest does not maliciously or substantially obstruct a passageway.
(c)  The right to own and possess personal property in public spaces without being subject to criminal or civil sanctions, harassment, or arrest by law enforcement, public or private security
personnel, or BID agents, as long as that personal property does not maliciously or substantially obstruct a passageway.
(d)  The right to share, accept, or give food in public spaces without being subject to criminal or civil sanctions, harassment, or arrest by law enforcement, public or private security personnel, or BID agents.
(e)  The right to the same protections that law enforcement agencies afford to all other citizens, including, but not limited to, the right to reasonable protection from domestic violence, sexual assault, hate crimes, or robberies.
(f)  The right to engage in life sustaining activities that must be carried out in public spaces because of homelessness, including, but not limited to, eating, congregating, possessing and storing
personal property, urinating, or collecting and possessing goods for recycling, even if those goods contain alcoholic residue, without being subject to criminal or civil sanctions, harassment, or arrest
by law enforcement, public or private security personnel, or BID agents………
(n)  The right to make his or her own decisions regarding whether or not to enter into a public or private shelter or any other accommodation, including social services programs, for any reason he or she sees  fit, without facing criminal or civil sanctions, harassment, or arrest from law enforcement, public or private\ security personnel, or BID agents.
(o)  The right to occupy vehicles, either to rest or use for the purposes of shelter, for 24 hours a day, seven days a week while legally parked on public property without facing criminal or civil sanctions, harassment, or arrest from law enforcement, public or private security personnel, or BID agents.

Flier by Norse of HUFF (Homeless United for Friendship & Freedom) 831-423-4833 http://www.huffsantacruz.org 309 Cedar PMB #14B S.C. 12-11-12

Proposed Homeless Bill of Rights May Provide New Legal Protections
Meanwhile: Witness & Document City-Wide Attacks on the Homeless

Assemblyman Tom Ammiano’s AB-5, the Homeless Person’s Bill of Rights and Fairness Act, asks police & municipalities to respect the rights of homeless people:

“No person’s rights, privileges, or access to public services may be denied or abridged because he or she is homeless, has a low income, or suffers from a mental illness or physical disability….Every person in the state, regardless of actual or perceived housing status, income level, mental illness, or physical disability, shall be free from specified forms of discrimination and shall be entitled to certain basic human rights, including the right to be free from discrimination by law enforcement.”

A hopeful but limiting provision of the bill states:

“Every person in the state, regardless of actual or perceived housing status, income level, mental illness, or physical disability, shall be free from all of the following: …Any type of discriminatory treatment by law enforcement, public or private security personnel, business owners, property managers, or BID agents, including, but not limited to, harassment, intimidation, or selective enforcement…..Unreasonable searches or seizures of his or her personal property, including property stored in vehicles, tents, grocery carts, bags, or any other carrying or storage device, if the intervention of law enforcement is based upon the actual or perceived housing status, income level, mental illness, or physical disability of the person in possession of the property.”

** Support Briana Brewer-facing 6 months in jail /$1000 fine for protesting abuse (“disturbing the peace”) by Denise, the “Hospitality” worker, targeting Briana for a service dog and giving away Xmas wreaths for donation downtown. A judge dismissed previous “dog tickets” by Denise, Sgt. Bush, and his officers apparently angering the Pacific Avenue Pooch Patrols.
** Support Brent Adams—facing hundreds of dollars in fines for observing police (“sitting near a building”) engaged in “sitcrime” harassment downtown. Brent is also a member of the SC-11.
** Report Sleeping Tickets; ask the Homeless (Lack of) Services Center for a written form showing you are on their Waiting List if you’ve signed up, or for a statement that their shelters were full on the date you received a ticket. Check in with activists Monday evening 5-7 PM at the Red Church.
** Share info & food with Food Not Bombs Sat Dec. 15 4 PM at the Main Post Office.
** Check http://www.huffsantacruz.org for updates & debates. Check in with HUFF Wed 10 AM-noon Sub Rosa Cafe at 703 Pacific. Free coffee; lots of chatter.
** Phone in reports to Free Radio Santa Cruz at 831-427-3772 or HUFF at 423-4833.
** Act to Restore Regular Use of Public Spaces Arbitrarily Closed to Repress Protest.
** Post Written & Video Reports on Facebook, http://www.indybay.org/santacruz etc.
** Volunteer to fight the Campaign to Scapegoat and Sweep Away the Poor: 423-4833.
** Fill out specific complaints against abusive SCPD, Host, or First Alarm Goonsquads.
** Contact Steve Pleich’s Homeless Legal Assistance Project at 466-6078 with reports of police abuse or confiscated property. New SCPD property pick-up times: Tue/Thur 12:30-2:30 PM
** Support the Santa Cruz Eleven at http://www.santacruzeleven.org Prospective benefit Sunday January 6th. Time TBA Next court date: January 7th 9 AM

COMING UP: 5:30 PM Monday December 17th: Public Safety Committee Scapegoat-arama on “Illegal Campsites”. Drop in on the Bigotocrats at Work at City Council Chambers 809 Center St. Be ready to face Take Back Santa Cruz & other hostile activists.

Flier by Norse of HUFF (Homeless United for Friendship & Freedom) 831-423-4833 http://www.huffsantacruz.org 309 Cedar PMB #14B S.C. 12-11-12

§Another Flyer from Supporters of the Bill

by (posted by) Norse Friday Dec 14th, 2012 8:03 PM

 

Download and distribute

§And this…

by WRAP Friday Dec 14th, 2012 8:05 PM

 

Download and distribute…

§Some Background on Discrimination

by WRAP Friday Dec 14th, 2012 8:06 PM

 

Download and distribute…

Comments  (Hide Comments)

by John E. Colby

Friday Dec 14th, 2012 9:21 PM

This bill of rights is only as good as the judges who would be obligated to enforce it. Notice how the federal bill of rights has been shredded by Congress and the Judiciary.

I don’t trust Santa Cruz judges to ever uphold people’s civil rights, especially the homeless. However their decisions can be appealed to higher courts which might uphold a homeless bill of rights.

Given the discretionary powers, and pattern of abuse in Santa Cruz, California, it is my opinion that the vote for District Attorney is one of the most important votes one can cast. A single person can overrule the will of the people, their representatives, and their judges. A kinder, gentler tyranny, especially when that power is placed in unclean hands.

#FireBobLee

by John E. Colby

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 3:51 PM

Obviously the local authorities — like the judiciary — aren’t going to correct the civil rights abuses of DA Bob Lee. It’s time to call in the federal government. I ask the Santa Cruz 11 to consider filing complaints with the FBI for Bob Lee abusing his authority under color of law to deprive individuals of civil rights. Refer to the link below.

by Observer

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 4:30 PM

” Since Santa Cruz has been a leader in these fields (that is, in laws the pioneer harassing the homeless)”

Sorry, but that statement is simply delusional.
Sure, Santa Cruz is mean and terrible to homeless people, which is why they come here from all over the country.

by Watcher

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 4:46 PM

That’s a remarkably toothless bill. I suppose it plays to the base, though.

One thing, however. Rights must be free. If an amenity costs any manner of resource, be it money or time or what have you, then it is no longer a right. It’s a privilege. That’s not an opinion, and it’s not subject to interpretation. So, things like public showers and toilets, etc., cannot be rights. One can certainly demand that society provide those privileges with money from people who pay taxes, but they still aren’t rights.

Before everyone calls me anti-homeless and Nazi and fascist and whatnot, let me be clear that I would tell the bourgeoisie the same thing about roads and health insurance and whatever else we’ve come to believe are rights, that infact have to be paid for.

Failure to understand and acknowledge this simple fact is why our government is perpetually broke.

by Robert Norse

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 4:56 PM

Delusional Observer and others who doubt the severity of Santa Cruz’s laws should check out a selection of the Deadly Downtown Ordinances at http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/08/29/18657087.php .

It’s accurate to say Santa Cruz pioneered these laws in that it was the first city in California to pass them (the Sitting, Peaceful Sparechanging, Performing, Bans in 1994, the Sleeping Ban in 1978) and has progressively hardened them at the behest of the Downtown Association and Police Department. Hopefully, one way or another, the Bill of Rights may make the city attorney nervous enough to recommend reform or repeal (which is probably the only way, short of an uprising) that such action would happen.

Actually I’m pretty clear the Kennedy-Rotkin Council of 1994 in its historical deal with the merchants was the first to pass the Downtown Ordinances; not quite as sure about the 1978 Sleeping Ban, but I haven’t seen other ordinances in other cities that predate its specific criminalization of “falling asleep after 11 PM”.

by Watcher

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:02 PM

There isn’t going to be an “uprising”, Robert. That sort of language is why Observer calls you delusional.

by John E. Colby

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:02 PM

Here’s the definition of human rights from The Free Dictionary. You can have a right to tangible items that cost money like housing, food and drink. It’s a right if LAWS guarantees it for human beings.

human rights
pl.n.
The basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled, often held to include the right to life and liberty, freedom of thought and expression, and equality before the law.

U.S. law and international law guarantee the right to housing, food and drink for example. These are NOT privileges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_housing

http://www.hrea.org/index.php?doc_id=404

by Observing

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:03 PM

-skipped over is the fact that it is now illegal for a homeless and money-less person to urinate or defecate at night, since there are no restrooms open to the public at night, or any other facilities or land or public space

-sounds like rights are being violated to me, and a biological human function necessary to human survival has become a privilege, when a people cannot legally relieve themselves at night, what could be more fascist?

-also, why does Watcher/Observer/Helper/Amazed feel the need to post under so many different handles?

-i smell insincerity

by Watching

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:34 PM

now ‘Watcher’ is talking to ‘Observer’ lol

stop trolling, you are the same person

and since indybay deleted my comment, here’s some more info

this troll is named David Schlesinger

for more info about how he may have profited from his trolling, and from disrupting other social movements, just do a google search for

“david schlesinger troll stalker” or “stone mirror troll stalker”

he’s well known around the web lol

by Amazed

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:35 PM

Oh, so when I use a web dictionary to easily define the word “lodging” in simple, incontrovertible language, your head explodes and all hell breaks loose. And when you use the same dictionary to define “rights”, you’re the cleverest person here, eh?

So, I was being sloppy. Here’s a clearer distinction between natural and legal rights that actually put both of us in the right. Haha. Get it? Right 🙂

“Natural and legal rights are two types of rights theoretically distinct according to philosophers and political scientists. Natural rights are rights not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable. In contrast, legal rights are those bestowed onto a person by the law of a particular political and legal system, and therefore relative to specific cultures and governments.”

So there. And no, Watcher and Observer aren’t the same person. You silly, paranoid vehicularly housed individual.

by Amazing Watcher

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:38 PM

Mind you, what I’m calling a privilege, and what Robert is demanding, namely, free toilets and showers and toothbrushes for the homeless, are closely associated with legal rights. But tell Robert that they’re anything but inalienable, natural rights and his face will turn purple and he’ll stomp off, inviting the “critics and trolls to in call into my radio show”.

That’s why we’ve never formed a rare and beautiful friendship, Robert and I.

by Observing

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:41 PM

schlesinger, i suspect there are other reasons why you and robert arent friends

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

by John E. Colby

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:51 PM

Arguably human rights are natural rights which become enforceable when enshrined in international and domestic law, but natural rights none the less. They are rights which we possess because we are human beings.

Here’s some reading for you.

by Sum Watcher

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 5:59 PM

Yeah. Feel free to argue that all you want. But arguing that a legal right becomes a natural right via legislation means that you’re an idiot who can’t read, a natural right that most of us choose not to exercise.

by John E. Colby

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:06 PM

You got it all wrong. Human rights are natural rights. They become enforceable when they are enshrined in law. They are NOT legal rights which become natural rights by being made law.

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:21 PM

slavery_never_abolished_450px.jpg
slavery_never_abolished_4…

(RazerRay has escaped the cube! Read Alert!)

[…]”Since Santa Cruz has been a leader in these fields (that is, in laws the pioneer harassing the homeless)”

Sorry, but that statement is simply delusional. […]

Absolutely delusional on your part Observer. The gentrification of Santa Cruz was planned along the same lines… with the same plan for ridding themselves of their pesky working class, with a number of other small and large cities nationwide such as Tempe Arizona, in the same size range.

Reference “Street people and the contested realms of public space” in re the gentrification of Tempe by sociologist Randall Amster
http://books.google.com/books/about/Street_people_and_the_contested_realms_o.html?id=JnVHAAAAMAAJ

Even to this day the city of Santa Cruz, Berkeley, and unknown other cities in California have am intercity interdisciplinary working group ‘planning’ their “Homeless Problem”.

The plan APPEARS to be “Run their displaced from town to town to town and back again until there’s attrition…” Which in these days of declining income and job resources seems an endless task destined to continually grease the slimy dollar-driven wheels of Poverty Pimps and police departments statewide.

Funny how that happens…

by FD

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:21 PM

…is meaningless in California. The State constitution and law grants local authorities broad police powers to provide for public safety, unless the state preempts a particular field to be regulated. In addition, charter cities such as Santa Cruz are constitutionally home rule communities and can exempt themselves from many (not all) state laws. I don’t see anything in the bill that says the State intends to fully preempt local authorities in dealing with the homeless.

by Amazing

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:24 PM

“You got it all wrong. Human rights are natural rights. They become enforceable when they are enshrined in law. They are NOT legal rights which become natural rights by being made law.”

This why I called you an idiot who can’t read.

So here’s the UNHCR, without a trace of irony, on the subject, from your hyperlink:

“These rights are human rights. Like other human rights, they contain dual freedoms: freedom from the State and freedom through the State. For example, the right to adequate housing covers a right to be free from forced evictions carried out by State agents (freedom from the State) as well as a right to receive assistance to access adequate housing in certain situations (freedom through the State)”

So the state must first give, and then the state must give more. LOL. Sounds like something written by Steve Argue, doesn’t it?

I hope some day you guys all get to live in this utopia you’re envisioning. That should be fun to watch.

by Idiot

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:29 PM

you call him an idiot because you are a troll and a professional time waster

by Idiot

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:32 PM

a good article about the ‘professional’ troll

http://techrights.org/2010/01/16/alternate-time-lines/

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:34 PM

Fucking STOP RHYMING!

…”Deadly Downtown Ordinances”

It’s simply foolish and denigrates… allows for disrespect for whatever points you try to make.

Signed,
Deadly Serious

th_RazerRayFriend.jpg
Hey everyone… Meet my dog… Cujo.

by Idiot

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:34 PM

Amazing doesn’t seem solution oriented

you are so skilled, how about you help end homelessness ?

by anon

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:37 PM

Richard Stallman and Bruce Perens Defamed by Troll
http://techrights.org/2010/02/19/defamed-by-access-employee/

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:41 PM

“FD” suggests: “The State constitution and law grants local authorities broad police powers to provide for public safety,”

MY PUBLIC SAFETY TOO… which IS the point of this issue to RE-Emphasize the fact that displaced workers ARE CITIZENS due PROTECTION under the State Constitution… which the city of Santa Cruz does NOT seem to understand.

Personally, I prefer a Jones-like decision as resolution to this issue and a state or federal judicial watchdog assigned as Santa Cruz seems unwilling to comply with a good portion of it’s citizen’s rights to public safety… A SELECTIVE portion. It’s a problem, and a potential MASSIVE liability to Santa Cruz taxpayers in the form of lawsuit expenses.

by Custodiet

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:55 PM

“…a potential MASSIVE liability to Santa Cruz taxpayers in the form of lawsuit expenses…”

Yeah. Here’s another classic Norse straw-man. The old MASSIVE LAWSUIT that we’ve been hearing for the past 30 years is about to happen.

Any day now. Really. Im serious. Okay, no. Now I’m serious. Really…

by money

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 6:58 PM

how much did norse cost the city of santa cruz in legal fees ?

a lot

if you deny us our rights, we will come for you in the courts

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 7:10 PM

Haha… He’s not a troll… At least that’s not how *I* know him.

A friend of mine did 5 years in a British prison because of this dude.

I hadn’t seen him for at least ten years. I had word that he was living in Berkely, then he showed up shortly after OccupySantaCruz began and attempted to disrupt it by “Charisma-enabled sidetracking” of people along with their labor and and resources, much like Western Service Workers Association, a LaRouche related org, attempts with other organizations and cohorts of people.

This Pseudo-“union” that seems almost legit to the outside uniformed observer made an attempt to compromise the selfsame OSC by repeatedly cajoling and haranguing the OSC GA to get involved in a letter writing campaign ostensibly on behalf of Chicano in-home health workers in Watsonville and Pajaro, while taking food and blankets from those generally impoverished people and offering them to mostly middle class OSC as a “donation”.

By their works ye shall know them… Someone said that a long time ago, and it’s still good advice.

But I digress… About Dave…

Many of the Norse-related prog-libs who hung around occupy were quite fond of Dave at the time and refused to heed my warning about his snitchjacket. I’ve also mentioned him to anyone I’ve known who came in contact with him at that time.

PDF Attachment: Rats – Your guide to protecting yourself against snitches, informers, informants, agents provocateurs, narcs, finks, and similar vermin.

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 7:19 PM

The Jones decision was a CLASS ACTION suit, and not comparable in any way to Norse’s self-serving “Nazi Salute” case which despite his bleatings has nothing whatsoever to do with the issue of displaced workers or the so-called homeless.

FWIW, and indicative of my ‘philosophical’ and tactical differences with him, the people he ‘saluted’ I’d just as soon see hung from lamp posts about town as a reminder that Fascists aren’t welcome in civil society

Add something intelligible or gtfo troll. “Norse baiting” REALLY REALLY bores me.

There should be a “Godwins Law” about invoking his name here for no good reason.

by The Elephant’s child

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 7:56 PM

Maybe you shoulda signed up for the 401K at Seagate. Or joined the Teamster’s union.

Then maybe you wouldn’t be outdoors and unemployable.

But that’s somebody else’s fault, right???

so it MUST be time to “Smash the State”!!!

P.S. Thanks for being so amusing and entertaining!!!!

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 8:11 PM

There is no way he could be David Schlesinger. David is a complete political rube and was not anywhere around when BJ sued LA.

Caveats and disclaimers:
Unless ofc he’s directly a fed with too much time to do research or has a ‘mole’ who has known her for a long time (which IS possible as I pointed out earlier many of BJ’s HUFF friends were quite fond of him and could have told him historical info about her)

Indeed, the whole SC11 indictment scam is an attempt to see if Facebook-like social web (network) tracking works just as well in real life as it does in the virtual one, which is why it seems the indictments were “popularity based” on how much of a social butterfly the indicted was, not reality based on evidence (BJ as prime example was never in the building or even on the lawn after the no trespass signs went up hence not only is she un-indictable, she’s just milking her non-involvement for notoriety a la RN), so I wouldn’t COMPLETELY rule that possibility out, but it seems really really unlikely as the troll in question isn’t bright enough to run an op like that, and when I knew him, was basically a “spun hon”, scribbling rather intricate Koh-I-Noor penned designs, while constantly seated at Java House (Pono Grill now) or sitting in his Faraday shielded (REALLY!) windowless white van outside the coffee shop.

In other words he’s a slightly charismatic wordy ex-acid head who doesn’t really have a political bone in his body afaik, and he’s paranoid, and OCD’d illustrated by the fact that during his stint hanging around Java House was quite a maven of hand sanitizers, which he insisted contain Nonoxynol-9.

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 8:18 PM

i_sleep_in_my_car.jpg
i_sleep_in_my_car.jpg

The truth is Teamsters, like LOCAL SURFERS, often sleep in their trucks, and wake up in the neighborhood of their choice… IOW, we’re ALL kind of “Street People”

And you’re a troll.

by RazerRay

Saturday Dec 15th, 2012 8:54 PM

This is my last response to “Elephant Chid”, who is one of two people. One of whom was/is a snitch for the government as discussed up-page or a former employer, Ken Bothello, Caffe’ Bene’, Libertarian scum, who attempted to blackmail me by purloining my personal property requiring police intervention when I quit his shitty job a few years ago.

They would be the only two people aware of that short segment of my 30+ years history as a well-respected worker in Santa Cruz when I worked for Seagate and a local trucking company where I trained truck drivers until an upper back injury forced my retirement a year later.

The only other person MIGHT BE a disgruntled GF, or my Ex, but it’s unlikely as I’d recognize the writing style of the former immediately, and my ex… Well lets just say last I knew she was barely able to string a complete sentence together due to the years of her methampetamine use post-marriage.

Either way Dave or Ken, consider yourself outed.

..and BTW, I never have felt the need to keep my identity in re my nicks vis a vis my real name secret.

Troll.

by G

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 7:34 AM

It seems to popular with republicans libertarians tea partians Kochians, um, what is their new and improved brand name?

As for the identity of the hand waver, well, who cares, even if it’s a transplant.

by Observer

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 10:58 AM

Per John Colby
“U.S. law and international law guarantee the right to housing, food and drink for example. These are NOT privileges. ”

Really? What type of housing, food and drink am I guaranteed? If I go into a bar, am I guaranteed to be given a beer (for free) because some supposed law guarantees me ‘food and drink’? If I’m going to get the beer, I might as well order up the bangers and mash. Then again, if it’s guaranteed, why not just get the steak and lob with a nice Cinnabar cabernet?

And to those above, no I am not ‘watcher’. I’d use my real name, but I’ve seen how Robert, et. al. harrass those who disagree with them.

by John E. Colby

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 2:51 PM

Compassionate communities provide these natural rights for their members as much as possible. Do we live in a compassionate society or a jungle? Watcher/Observer desires a free for all society where no man is responsible for the well-being of his brother. European societies rejected this view because it brought them two world wars in the last century.

Watcher/Observer buys into the competition meme. Successful societies — much more successful than ours — are also compassionate ones where human rights are considered natural rights.

Clearly, as the last five years show, Watcher/Observer’s meme is a bust. Our society must become more compassionate, providing for human rights, if we are to survive and address the great challenges of our time.

“come to the table in a spirit of compromise”

You and yours first, blamer of victims. Don’t start nothin’, won’t be nothin’.

When the persecution ceases, when people are ‘allowed’ to exist without oppression, when the petty avarice driving the criminalization of basic survival needs comes to an end, then such a statement will cease to be laced with lopsided cruelty and ignorance.

I suggest you make haste in bringing an end to such tyranny, before it is ended for you.

by John E. Colby

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 4:00 PM

You wrote:

“So here’s the UNHCR, without a trace of irony, on the subject, from your hyperlink:

“These rights are human rights. Like other human rights, they contain dual freedoms: freedom from the State and freedom through the State. For example, the right to adequate housing covers a right to be free from forced evictions carried out by State agents (freedom from the State) as well as a right to receive assistance to access adequate housing in certain situations (freedom through the State)””

This isn’t double dipping as you describe. It describes the nature of freedoms inherent in human rights. One is free from state intrusion which violates your human rights and receives assistance from the state in certain situations, which is freedom through the State.

Your exaggerations belie the weakness of your meme. The fact is we have a failed society. Our nation has more than enough money to provide for human rights and still be economically successful. If we shifted out priorities from war to peace, and from the 1% to the 99%, we could meet all these needs with extra money left over. Europe has done this without as big an economy as ours. Naysayers like you are hyper individualists who buy into the corporate capitalist propaganda.

People like you are bringing our nation, in fact our world, down the path to ruin.

by Listener

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 4:27 PM

By the way, one compromises with hate filled tyranny the same way one compromises with jackass-inspired tomfoolery and with people who play games with the meaning of the word “lodge” to weasel out of responsibility for their actions.

You come to the table, shake hands and find common ground from which to start. Then, at the sound of the starting pistol, you’re off to the races!

“people who play games with the meaning of the word “lodge” to weasel out of responsibility for their actions”

That is an apt description of the way the District Attorney and the Santa Cruz bench has behaved.

I look forward to their apologies, forced or not.

by Doer

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 4:47 PM

Not likely those apologies are going to be forthcoming very soon, G. Perhaps after you guys are all convicted and the last vestiges of your phony sandbox activism have been stamped out by policemen in hobnailed boots, then maybe, just maybe, Bob Lee will come outside, look at you, shake his head in lieu of just smirking at you, and offer his apologies for thrashing y’all so badly, before heading back inside to yuck it up about you guys with his underlings behind closed doors.

by G

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 5:02 PM

“stamped out by policemen in hobnailed boots”

Careful, your true colors are showing.

“with his underlings behind closed doors”

As is your taste in governance.

by Thinker

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 5:28 PM

That’s why I obey the law (most of the time) and thus stay free. Considering that you’re the one who pawned yourself for Roberts shenanigans, and spent time behind bars for it, I’d suggest that you’re the one who hates liberty. Not I.

by John E. Colby

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 5:49 PM

All of your posts (many which have been removed because they were inappropriate) add up to:

“I hate liberty”.

You are confusing obedience to tyranny with seeking redress.

Perhaps someday, after studying the legal system you have so blindly consented to, you will understand our actions.

I suspect that understanding will take longer than our appeals. I suspect your expressed opinions will lack accountability, if higher courts rule in our favor. I suspect your anger will grow, as your guilt grows. I hope I am wrong about that. I hope you are blessed with an awakening, and you embrace it. I hope you repent, before it is too late.

by Robert Norse

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 7:06 PM

Perhaps Observer can name some of the folks that have been harassed because they’ve come out from behind their psuedonyms?
I can’t think of one.

Public Safety Committee of the City Council meets tomorrow in Council chambers at 5 PM. Under discussion: the “needles and feces” concerns and more probable anti-homeless hysteria.

by RazerRay

Sunday Dec 16th, 2012 7:24 PM

I for one am well known to the police and all it would take would be simple comparison of my public words with my words here by SCPD’s ‘moles’ on these threads. Because my analysis IS known to most SCPD officers who have ‘checked me’ or spoken with me. I’m not shy.

Also note the officer investigating my incident ask to see the weapon I used to shove the stupid drunk kid off me before his thug older ‘buddy’ kicked and punched at me. I handed it to him, he looked at that steel spike, shrugged and gave it back to me.

by Observer

Monday Dec 17th, 2012 12:16 AM

Norse:
“Perhaps Observer can name some of the folks that have been harassed because they’ve come out from behind their psuedonyms?
I can’t think of one.”

Analicia Cube is the first that comes to mind. You’ve leveled all manner of vitriol at her. And your minion Becky went so far as to ask for a boycott of a business who she assumed was owned by one poster. Let’s not even get into Bunny’s, whose ‘crime’ was not wanting people to break into their property. Yes, that’s harrassment.

by G

Monday Dec 17th, 2012 4:40 AM

As there is someone that clearly stated they were trolling (and enjoyed it), before the comments were censored, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that their intellectual dishonesty trumps their claims of intellectual discourse.

In other words, they seem to hate real life people simply trying to exist, yet act so ugly on IndyBay.

That speaks volumes about their character, in my opinion.

by anon

Monday Dec 17th, 2012 6:07 AM

Observer, analicia cube is the co-founder of ‘take back santa cruz’

if criticism cant be directed towards her, I dont know towards whom it could be.

Norse is polite towards her, and comparing your behavior to his is silly; you and your other aliases who are posting here have been anything but civil.

analicia cube has never been harassed here or anywhere else by Norse

by RazerRay

Monday Dec 17th, 2012 8:24 AM

Copy the following to embed the movie into another web page:

download video:

_eternal_fascism__fourteen_ways_of_looking_at_a_blackshirt__by_umberto_eco.mp4 (19.9MB)

Video: “Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt” By Umberto Eco”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn-5qG_ZR9I

Short form article: http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html

Pay attention to Point #6

Analicia Cube?

No DEXTER CUBE, if I remember correctly two time financial frauder. Felony convictions. That’s public information,. This freak is someone who needs to be outed continually at least as the moral and ethical underpinning of what’s called Take Back Santa Cruz.

Why not? These freaks believe stupid unscientific shit like “once a junkie always a junkie”… I think the whole basis for the organization is somehow related to FINANCIAL FRAUD. Once a fraud always a fraud.

As far as the rest of the TBSC org. It’ like American Express you know? They look HUGE but have about 500 employees worldwide, TBSC has a tiny core group INCLUDING Analicia Cube as ‘spokesperson’, whom I consider along with the rest to be NOT PUBLIC SPIRITED, as in “ALL OF THE PUBLIC” in their pursuit of an alleged ‘clean and sane’ middle class (and the middle class being friggin sociopaths are able to define sane?) Santa Cruz. The majority of their alleged 5000 members live elsewhere around the planet and “Like” their FB page. A CLOSED FB page where they want to view your profile before allowing you to ‘join’

They ARE a Fascist front organization with a ‘puffed-up’ shell of a following, created by a convicted felon, and apparently with the help current city council person Pamela Comstock.

Which means elements of the city government consorts with Fascists .

Hanging from lamp posts around town as a reminder that Fascism is unacceptable in a civil society would be too fitting a fate for these scumbuckets (The founders and core organizers of TBSC, and perhaps a city councilmember or two)

by RazerRay

Monday Dec 17th, 2012 9:08 AM

For those ‘too busy’ to watch the video or look at the article:

One of the things to be noted when “Looking for Blackshirts”:

6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration.

That is why one of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups. In our time, when the old “proletarians” are becoming petty bourgeois (and the lumpen are largely excluded from the political scene), the fascism of tomorrow will find its audience in this new majority.

I do believe that about sums up the sick psychology behind TBSC.

Hitler Youth picked up trash and ‘helped old ladies across the street’ too. But that didn’t preclude their being Fascists.

Clipped from a conversation at another site with Linda Lemaster who said (spelling cleaned):

“…under the impression the group was just a Beaver-driven political party for Real Estate Equity and neighbor opportunism? I didn’t object when they became a “local force” because aesthetically they had the guts to pick up trash left from the broken systems they’re/we’re still paying for while we watch it break from exhaustion and neglect. I’m FOR the people who are willing to take some “in hand” responsibility for their world, even when the specific aesthetic differs from mine…”

The ‘neighbors’ are being misdirected.

Is a mattress in the woods REALLY more of an environmental nightmare than an underused golf course that strips so much of the city’s available water, and due to the fact that many of the ‘neighbors’ work multiple jobs just to maintain their lifestyle most of the ‘neighbors’ could never use the facilities… even IF they WERE golfers, because they just don’t have the time.

TBSC sells all that frustration to their members too. Instead of being concerned their members HAVE TO work three jobs to afford to live here and affordable housing with a wide variety of jobs and housing to match whatever income a worker earns would leave their members having less frustrated lives AND more leisure time

So… What’s the the big ecodisaster of MAYBE 10 mattresses spread out over literally hundreds of square miles of forest?

While ticky tacky condos being built en masse on Graham hill road without adequate water supply in the area isn’t an ecodisaster according to TBSC’s way of thinking. Or for that matter their followers… for whom a few of them MAY have seminal thoughts like that. TBSC would suppress that thought.

On the part of the core organizers, most of the ‘leadership’ passed on to their followers, their neighbors, is intentional misdirection.

Dexter Cube was/is a scam artist who ended up convicted of 2 SEC felonies. TBSC is a scam too. with other parties besides the Core or the Neighbors being the primary beneficiaries of the scam, but the neighbors, AKA ‘rubes’ aren’t aware of that while the TBSC leadership parlays their benefits as ‘political gains’, but it’s STILL a scam, and the sociopaths at the top use the rubes to achieve THEIR interests.

I acknowledge that in some cases, using a psuedonym, can be a wise choice, however it detracts from your credibility.

It is also false to suggest that I have “harassed” those who came out from behind a false name, nor that my criticism of Take Back Santa Cruz is a form of “harassment”.

Analicia Cube (co-founder of Take Back Santa Cruz) and I have strongly divergent views and have challenged each other publicly. I’m not aware she was writing under psuedonyms, was “outed”, and then “suffered harassment”. I think she expects that those of strongly different views will criticize her and she has the courage of her (mistaken) convictions.

Ed Natol has criticized me repeatedly in public, called my show and done so there, and doesn’t hide behind psuedonyms as some on this thread do.

Bunny’s was part of a group of merchants that supported banning a homeless couple from downtown, the main complaint about them being that they slept on public property (and yes, in the private breezeway between Pacific and Front Sts. in the wee hours of the morning when no one was there) When repeatedly harassed by police, they vigorously and vocally objected–and this was their real “crime”. In response City Attorney Barisone used a costly rights-be-damned civil procedure to encourage police to intensify their harassment. (See “Final Decision Expands ‘Go to Sleep, Go to Jail’ Persecution of Two Homeless Musicians” at http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/11/08/18663560.php?show_comments=1#18665687)

Bunny’s and other businesses who lent themselves to this “short circuit the constitution” approach were named, criticized, and (by some) boycotted. That’s not “harassment” but rather constitutionally-protected protest that seeks to expose abuse of the legal process and targeting of vulnerable homeless people.

Lito (Miguel de Leon) is now the paranoia-poster child for the hysteria-heavy War on Drugs. Instead of acknowledging this is a medical problem, NIMBYs use meth use to drum up abusive activity against homeless people for survival sleeping and presence in public spaces–such as the library. See

Any recent reports on how the main library–and our favorite First Alarm “guard” John–is treating the more raggedy folks there?

Still no response from Landry, the head librarian, regarding the Public Records Act made on December 4th (see http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/11/30/18726836.php?show_comments=1#18727166).

A real homeless bill of rights wouldn’t be such a bad thing for sure.

Hold your nose and go to the comments at http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_22125587/library-board-votes-down-sleeping-ban .

This is the kind of bigotry that calls out for civil rights protection.

by RazerRay

Tuesday Dec 18th, 2012 11:01 AM

I walked up on the first attempt to have a meeting about the Bill last summer near the county building (which ofc was sidetracked and re-purposed when a celebrity SC11 DA showed up) to one of the HUFFers saying (in jest… I know the person)

“A real homeless person to lend us some legitimacy!”

There’s NOTHING I can do to ‘lend legitimacy’ to HUFF.

Robert Norse is OCD’d and anal enough to be a good researcher, but beyond that there isn’t much there except showman. He’s the PT Barnum of homeless ‘politics’ Shouting “Looky Here!” which is something he also does well. But afaict he has no solutions.

He thinks more beds at their dysfunctional shelter or it’s multiple doppelgangers, the “Interfaith Satellite Shelters”, is a ‘solution’. Even as a temporary thing, there’s NO SOLUTION THERE.

Just another codependent-go-round for the do-gooders to get their feel-goods on, and to affiliate, and get used to, cooperating with INSTITUTIONAL POVERTY PIMPS.

Library board votes down sleeping ban

J.M. BROWN

Santa Cruz Sentinel:   12/04/2012

SANTA CRUZ — Trustees have narrowly defeated a measure that would have explicitly outlawed using the library as a place to sleep.

Monday’s 5-4 vote of the Santa Cruz Public Libraries Joint Powers Authority Board denied an attempt by staff to add sleeping to a list of banned behaviors.

Library Director Teresa Landers said staff had sought the specific right to remove people who are lying down in the stacks or placing their heads on tables and sleeping for hours at a time, not people who fall asleep briefly while reading. She said people are seen sleeping for extended periods a couple of times per day, mostly at the downtown branch.

But board President Sam Storey, a Capitola City Council member, was joined by Santa Cruz Councilwoman Katherine Beiers, county Supervisor John Leopold and citizen members Nancy Gerdt and Dick English in voting no.

“I think it would be very difficult to enforce and identify who is guilty and who is not,” Storey said. “In my heart of hearts, we all knew who this was going to impact the greatest, and a certain group of people would be disproportionately affected. It brings up a lot of social issues, like how we handle our homeless population.”

County Supervisor Ellen Pirie, who joined Santa Cruz Councilman David Terrazas, Scotts Valley Councilman Jim Reed and citizen member Leigh Poitinger in supporting the measure, said staff should have the ability to handle what has become “a big problem.”

“We’re a library not a dormitory,” Pirie said.

Landers said library workers still will be able to ask sleepers to leave if they are impeding the ability of others to use materials and equipment. The proposed sleeping ban was part of other changes in the library’s conduct policy that the board otherwise approved.

Managers will now be able to seize unattended backpacks and other items and suspend patrons for up to a year for multiple violations of any conduct rule. Previously, staff could only seek a 30-day suspension, after which a temporary restraining order would have to be sought.

Landers said hiring First Alarm security guards around the downtown branch this year has had a positive impact on people loitering outside. However, problems remain inside, including Sunday when a woman was arrested for punching someone and a man wielded a hammer at someone but fled before police arrived.

Also as part of the new safety measures, the board instructed Landers to further study a policy on emotional support animals, those not protected under disability laws, such as dogs and miniature horses. Landers said staff, who want to be able to ask what kind of support the animal offers specific to use of the library, want to ensure patrons are treated fairly.

“This whole conduct in a nutshell is about making the library a welcoming place for everyone,” Landers said.

COMMENTS

by Robert Norse

All the paranoia and prejudice of the comments here aside, how about restoring the benches outside the library, eliminating the “War on the Poor” curfew on standing outside the library after 9:30 p.m. on public property,as well as dumping the “unattended property” pretext for harassing homeless people in the library? If the library is concerned about homeless property there, how about some lockers?
Meanwhile at the state level, Ammiano has introduced the California version of the Rhode Island Homeless Bill of Rights. It’s not clear to me whether this bill is more than window-dressing, but , but here’s activist Paul Boden’s call for supporting a state-wide measure: http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/California-needs-rights-for-homeless-4091545.php

by Richelle Noroyan

The library’s purpose is not to provide a space for long naps regardless of one’s housing status nor should the library be seen as a solution for homeless people needing sleep. This proposal would have done nothing to lessen library services to the homeless. What a ridiculous decision.

by Becky Johnson

I use the downtown library frequently and I have never smelled pee there. Ever since Ronald Reagan took office, homelessness has been a growing problem. Across the nation, libraries have become the de facto day shelters for homeless people. I know many of you posting think the solution is to drive homeless people away with increasingly restrictive and punitive laws and measures. I assert that you will never solve “the problem” this way, and that what you propose cannot be justified in a democratic society. You are basically arguing that libraries should be reserved for housed people only. Congrats to Beiers and Storey for showing moral courage. As for David Terrazas…we have to talk.

For a frightening barage of bigoted comments, see Sentinel story – http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_22125587/library-board-votes-down-sleeping-ban